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Which year mustangs have this? How would I know if my car does this?
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Which year mustangs have this? How would I know if my car does this?
FordPass Connect started in 2018. In Mustangs it started in 2019 but only on the 201A/401A packages (except the Bullitt). In 2020 it became standard on all models.
 

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Oof. The conspiracy theories and fear in this thread are strong.

As an IT professional, I hate to brake it to you, but Ford is the least of your worries in relation to data privacy. Ask yourself, as you type your enraged response to my first line, how many stops is your data making before reaching the servers these forums are on? What did you agree to when you signed up to be a member on these forums? For that matter, what are you inherently consenting to when you search for new headers on Google or Bing?

Yes, data privacy is important. However, it is your choice to opt into these services. No one is forcing you to. So before some of you feel personally butthurt to Ford about putting modems in their cars and tracking data related to you using their services, think about what your data means to you.

IF anyone is interested in me going into more detail about what kind of data Ford tracks and where it could be going, I can definitely do that. I will say, however, from what I can read, Ford is not tracking anything the world doesn't already know about you.
 
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Oof. The conspiracy theories and fear in this thread are strong.

As an IT professional, I hate to brake it to you, but Ford is the least of your worries in relation to data privacy. As yourself, as you type your enraged response to my first line, how many stops is your data making before reaching the servers these forums are on? What did you agree to when you signed up to be a member on these forums? For that matter, what are you inherently consenting to when you search for new headers on Google or Bing?

Yes, data privacy is important. However, it is your choice to opt into these services. No one is forcing you to. So before some of you feel personally butthurt to Ford about putting modems in their cars and tracking data related to you using their services, think about what your data means to you.

IF anyone is interested in me going into more detail about what kind of data Ford tracks and where it could be going, I can definitely do that. I will say, however, from what I can read, Ford is not tracking anything the world doesn't already know about you.
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I never read their hundred pages of agreements I just go to the bottom and hit agree. I do it for everything from mortgage(my house is paid for) to car insurance, unless someone is watching me then I just pretend to read it. I really don't care who's watching me drive my car, or go shopping or what websites I visit, or what kind of detergent I use. And I don't give a rip. Ahhh... ignorance is bliss.
 

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Oof. The conspiracy theories and fear in this thread are strong.

As an IT professional, I hate to break it to you, but Ford is the least of your worries in relation to data privacy. Ask yourself, as you type your enraged response to my first line, how many stops is your data making before reaching the servers these forums are on? What did you agree to when you signed up to be a member on these forums? For that matter, what are you inherently consenting to when you search for new headers on Google or Bing?

Yes, data privacy is important. However, it is your choice to opt into these services. No one is forcing you to. So before some of you feel personally butthurt to Ford about putting modems in their cars and tracking data related to you using their services, think about what your data means to you.

IF anyone is interested in me going into more detail about what kind of data Ford tracks and where it could be going, I can definitely do that. I will say, however, from what I can read, Ford is not tracking anything the world doesn't already know about you.
Nailed it ............. This thread is good for laughs. Ford is the least of their worries. It is my ex wife flying around on her broom that I worry about. :crackup:
 

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Oof. The conspiracy theories and fear in this thread are strong.

As an IT professional, I hate to brake it to you, but Ford is the least of your worries in relation to data privacy. Ask yourself, as you type your enraged response to my first line, how many stops is your data making before reaching the servers these forums are on? What did you agree to when you signed up to be a member on these forums? For that matter, what are you inherently consenting to when you search for new headers on Google or Bing?

Yes, data privacy is important. However, it is your choice to opt into these services. No one is forcing you to. So before some of you feel personally butthurt to Ford about putting modems in their cars and tracking data related to you using their services, think about what your data means to you.

IF anyone is interested in me going into more detail about what kind of data Ford tracks and where it could be going, I can definitely do that. I will say, however, from what I can read, Ford is not tracking anything the world doesn't already know about you.
^^^ Point spot on. That’s what I’ve been saying too.... everyone’s shit has been tracked the moment you busted out of the womb....
 

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Just 2019 Bullitt models specifically, some sort of Factory error. I think some 2018's have them but I'm not sure of the criteria.
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Well, this makes my '19 worth a LOT more than a '20 ;)
 

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I never read their hundred pages of agreements I just go to the bottom and hit agree. I do it for everything from mortgage(my house is paid for) to car insurance, unless someone is watching me then I just pretend to read it. I really don't care who's watching me drive my car, or go shopping or what websites I visit, or what kind of detergent I use. And I don't give a rip. Ahhh... ignorance is bliss.
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Yes, data privacy is important. However, it is your choice to opt into these services. No one is forcing you to. So before some of you feel personally butthurt to Ford about putting modems in their cars and tracking data related to you using their services, think about what your data means to you.

IF anyone is interested in me going into more detail about what kind of data Ford tracks and where it could be going, I can definitely do that. I will say, however, from what I can read, Ford is not tracking anything the world doesn't already know about you.
My issue is that as fair as I'm aware, Ford have not been forthcoming in disclosing what data they collect and for what use. Do they require you to opt-in to data collection, or do they just do it anyway?

I will admit that I have a 2018, so it probably doesn't apply to me. It's the lack of transparency generally that gets up my nose.

My whole family is well aware of data privacy. I don't use Google services, I don't do Social Media (this forum is about as close as it gets). To have my car tattle on my driving habits which is of no-ones concern my mine is like treason.

If you do have details of what Ford collects and why, I'm all ears!
 

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Soon with GPS you'll be getting speeding tickets in the mail. Just watch. That said, love my zero tech 300A car haha.
 

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Oof. The conspiracy theories and fear in this thread are strong.

As an IT professional, I hate to brake it to you, but Ford is the least of your worries in relation to data privacy. Ask yourself, as you type your enraged response to my first line, how many stops is your data making before reaching the servers these forums are on? What did you agree to when you signed up to be a member on these forums?
For starters, this forum and others that I am a member of do not get the kinds of information that Ford's telematics system would collect, and as far as I know none of the sites I go to have the ability to track me when I'm on the move. I refuse requests to track my location, which would be transmitted from a laptop that hardly ever leaves the house..


For that matter, what are you inherently consenting to when you search for new headers on Google or Bing?
What's a "new header"? Never heard that before in the context of an internet search.


Yes, data privacy is important. However, it is your choice to opt into these services. No one is forcing you to. So before some of you feel personally butthurt to Ford about putting modems in their cars and tracking data related to you using their services, think about what your data means to you.
The objection would be about essentially being forced to accept such tracking as a condition of being allowed to buy a Ford vehicle. I don't think that's much different from "we'll sell you this Mustang for $40k, but reserve the right to bill you for more money in the future that you will be obligated to pay".


IF anyone is interested in me going into more detail about what kind of data Ford tracks and where it could be going, I can definitely do that. I will say, however, from what I can read, Ford is not tracking anything the world doesn't already know about you.
Chances are pretty good that "the world" knows more about most people than it knows about me.


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My issue is that as fair as I'm aware, Ford have not been forthcoming in disclosing what data they collect and for what use. Do they require you to opt-in to data collection, or do they just do it anyway?

I will admit that I have a 2018, so it probably doesn't apply to me. It's the lack of transparency generally that gets up my nose.

My whole family is well aware of data privacy. I don't use Google services, I don't do Social Media (this forum is about as close as it gets). To have my car tattle on my driving habits which is of no-ones concern my mine is like treason.

If you do have details of what Ford collects and why, I'm all ears!
Here you go. Knock your self out. By the way nobody ever reads this stuff.

https://owner.ford.com/fordpass/fordpass-terms-and-conditions.html
 

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Soon with GPS you'll be getting speeding tickets in the mail. Just watch. That said, love my zero tech 300A car haha.
You can already get speeding tickets in the mail and you do not need a connected car to get them. They are radar speed traps and there are signs on the roads that have them. I got caught on 95 once in between Baltimore and Washington, DC.
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