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A great app for what?

Serious question.

FWIW, around town, there's the station I prefer to go to and a couple of alternates in case station #1 is getting the tanks refilled. On a trip I've done before, I already know a number of places where I'd stop. On any trip I haven't done before, where I stop isn't going to matter. Why would I need an app?

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It's really simple. Some of us like to check pricing regardless of whether we are local or traveling.
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Don't you have greater control over privacy options with Android 11 than with iPhone?
No. As it is a more open system is is easier to be hacked. Which it has been in the past. Apple isn't perfect, not by a long shot, but it works in a more controlled infrastructure.
 

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Hahaha now that's paranoid!
Uh oh. I've always done that except a nearby intersection instead of x addresses away. If I can't find/remember mine, a family or friends' house when no turns or intersections between, I should NOT be driving.
 

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I prefer living where my next door neighbor is at least 10 acres away thank you.
And your neighbors say even that's not far enough. :wink:
 

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Delivering Christmas presents to the g kids friends. Broad daylight. The preps know that with the new DA's no cash bond needed rule, they are automatically released. So, they go right back to it. The great socialism experiment in the SF bay area.
It's getting dangerous everywhere. I was on Woodward in Detroit late on a week night. No traffic at all and I saw two guys standing on the curb mid-block a couple of blocks ahead. They were just standing there looking in my direction. As I neared, one took something out of his pocket and the other leaned out and looked ready to step out in front of me. I downshifted, made eye contact, smiled and gave my best I don't care if I have to get my bumper restriped look.
 

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And your neighbors say even that's not far enough. :wink:
I was the only one on 50 acres for many years. Then my in laws started selling off their 10 acre tracts. Oh well, such is life.
 

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You lost all of your privacy in 2001. Sorry. Getting it back is on your kids, good luck.
 

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I was the only one on 50 acres for many years. Then my in laws started selling off their 10 acre tracts. Oh well, such is life.
Hey Mike, forgot to ask. How are you folks doing down there? The pictures we're seeing are terrible. I hope everyones alright. 🙏🙏
 

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Exactly why I don't use it, waze, etc. I have the children's home locations set in the navigation on the car ............. off by several driveways !
That is actually a good idea that I have also always done. Somebody steals your car and presses home on the Nav (they know you are not there!)....
 

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Read it all - good points being posted from all sides.

Here's my take on it....

Does any one of us go at this length or extent of thought process when:

- We purchased our first mobile phone, mobile device or even home PC and any subsequent upgrade there after

- Interviewed and were hired at the employment establishment where you work AND signed/requested access for any of the hardware/software tools one may utilize at that business entity

- Signed for your first mortgage or rental

- Had your first child and signed off on their birth certificate and any/all docs that need to get completed

- Signed for Health Care or had to go to a Hospital for major surgery

- Signed for any type of Insurance or any other major purchase that requires the person to input personal info

- Signed up for a new credit card or any subsequent cards there after

While I "get it" and understand some of the concerns of the thread - the point I'm trying to make is - our personal info has been collected and disseminated since our birth. Your and my pertinent info about us has been stored in some XYZ database and has been sold MULTIPLE times to XYZ entities for years...

For me, I don't care who can see what site I visit or where I have driven. And do I really think that ANY Business Entity has the capability of zeroing in on JUST ME from the bazillion data points being collected from EVERYONE ELSE on the entire planet so they can improve there XYZ next future Gen designs or solve "bugs"? Nope I don't care.

You can disable any devices parts, but your info has already been out there. No one reads any fine print - well... some do, but the point is, MOST do not - not fine print on anything being purchased, not fine print on services needed, not even fine print on anything being consumed for food or products...

You're being tracked from the moment you exit your home and drive down the street from the multitude of neighbors security cams on their homes, to cars with dash cams, to street light cams, to business operations cams or other security cams along the way. How to stop from your personal data to actual physical tracking anywhere is nearly impossible in today's world.

Case in point:
- Did anyone read the fine print before getting wireless connectivity?

- Did anyone read this forum's fine print or the Distributor of the Xenforo software's fine print before signing up as a user? :wink:😄
 

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Read it all - good points being posted from all sides.

Here's my take on it....

Does any one of us go at this length or extent of thought process when:

- We purchased our first mobile phone, mobile device or even home PC and any subsequent upgrade there after

- Interviewed and were hired at the employment establishment where you work AND signed/requested access for any of the hardware/software tools one may utilize at that business entity

- Signed for your first mortgage or rental

- Had your first child and signed off on their birth certificate and any/all docs that need to get completed

- Signed for Health Care or had to go to a Hospital for major surgery

- Signed for any type of Insurance or any other major purchase that requires the person to input personal info

- Signed up for a new credit card or any subsequent cards there after

While I "get it" and understand some of the concerns of the thread - the point I'm trying to make is - our personal info has been collected and disseminated since our birth. Your and my pertinent info about us has been stored in some XYZ database and has been sold MULTIPLE times to XYZ entities for years...

For me, I don't care who can see what site I visit or where I have driven. And do I really think that ANY Business Entity has the capability of zeroing in on JUST ME from the bazillion data points being collected from EVERYONE ELSE on the entire planet so they can improve there XYZ next future Gen designs or solve "bugs"? Nope I don't care.

You can disable any devices parts, but your info has already been out there. No one reads any fine print - well... some do, but the point is, MOST do not - not fine print on anything being purchased, not fine print on services needed, not even fine print on anything being consumed for food or products...

You're being tracked from the moment you exit your home and drive down the street from the multitude of neighbors security cams on their homes, to cars with dash cams, to street light cams, to business operations cams or other security cams along the way. How to stop from your personal data to actual physical tracking anywhere is nearly impossible in today's world.

Case in point:
- Did anyone read the fine print before getting wireless connectivity?

- Did anyone read this forum's fine print or the Distributor of the Xenforo software's fine print before signing up as a user? :wink:😄
Mass data collection is about large-scale control of people. The more data that an organization has about each of us and our neighbors, the better they understand the cues they need to put in front of us to get us to act on their wishes. Targeted ads are the obvious example, they are tailored as precisely as possible to our whims and they try to get us to buy stuff. I find it useful actually.

However, there is a sinister side to it that's reflected in the neighbor-vs-neighbor political divisions that are growing across western democracies - Canada, the UK, Germany and the USA among many others. Getting people angry so they'll vote against something has become big business, and mass collection of personal data is the fuel that drives the vote-getting machine.

As for the "security-by-obscurity" notion - where my data is irrelevant because I'm not that interesting and I'm just one person amongst billions - it's just not realistic anymore. There's just so much computing power working on these massive data sets. For instance, when you type a random query into Google search, Google's internal target is to have a response back to you within 30 milliseconds, regardless of what the query was about. These massive personal data systems work the same way.

They don't necessarily target each of us as an individual - instead these huge computing farms run around the clock sifting through a torrent of new data, matching it up with existing data and developing new insights that can be sold to advertisers. The machines, at their leisure, single each of us out so they can categorize us into a bunch of pigeonholes across many topics, from things like laundry detergent preference to voting preferences to gender fluidity. One such pigeonhole could be "car enthusiast, likes Fords". When someone pays them to send a message to "car enthusiasts who like Fords", they grab the contact info from that particular pigeonhole and ship out the message.
 

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