Who else ordered a 2019 GT350/GT350R

[trafficman337]

When was your car delivered? From order to delivery mine was 9 weeks and a day.

Ordered 8 weeks ago. Ford Order Processing ever since. I think my order is waiting on a steering wheel, oh no its a carbon fiber issue, or no it was a Gurney Flap issue, oh no its because the border is closed, oh no it was because Henry Ford stopped by and was looking to see if Kona Blue was actually referring to the last episode of Hawaii 5-0.

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[svttim]

Yes

 

[PP0001]

If that is true, can you show me that shows Shelby is the location for "Ship to" or "sold to" on the window sticker?

Of course Ford is the manufacturer with Shelby American being the tuner as they have for many years and yes there have been many Mustangs shipped and sold directly to Las Vegas over the years including some of the 2008/2009 GT500's after which time these cars became the GT500KR's. If I recall SA modified some ~1725 cars for the 2008/2009MY for the 2 year GT500KR program.

With respect to recent Mustangs being shipped directly from Flat Rock to Las Vegas and sold directly to SA I will suggest that the upcoming run of 2019 Orange and/or Black Mustangs (their company colors) that will be converted to rental cars for the SIXT Rental Car Company and will be one of the next group of Mustangs sold to and shipped direct to Shelby American from Flat Rock.

I believe the 2019 Shelby American Mustang model for the SIXT Rental Car Company will bear the name of Shelby GT-S with all of these cars being 10 speed automatic cars just as most of the 1000 GT350 Hertz cars were back in 1966.

With 600 HP on tap these SIXT rental cars should provide a lot of fun for the rental car customers and the SIXT locations that will be allocated some of these cars.

 

[Justtoph]

When was your car delivered? From order to delivery mine was 9 weeks and a day.

Ordered 3/4/19 in production for 2 weeks now to be delivered according to website 5/15, according to dealer 5/21-5/27. Fingers crossed. I hope they have a steering wheel for mine

 

[GJB]

You mean to say Ford transported Mustangs to the Shelby American facility in Vegas without steering wheels? Did Ford put temporary steering wheels on them in order to ship? That's pretty bizarre!

No. Shelby American can take a GT Premium and for a $$$$$$.... make it a super snake....wide body... etc.

 

[GJB]

I am confused. Why would Ford even send any cars directly to Shelby? They are not a Ford dealer. I am pretty sure it has to be delivered to the Ford dealer first

They don’t.
A customer has to purchase a Mustang from a dealer and bring it to Shelby American.
The Mustang is then transformed by Shelby American... with what is chosen by the buyer.

 

[Jimichrist]

I found this interesting post on YouTube.
The poster offers an interesting hypothesis on Ford's strategy to protect the GT350. What I found interesting was that (if this is correct) there will only be 2800 GT350's produced for the 2020MY and the R's will be limited to 30% of that. That doesn't seem like a whole heck of a lot of GT350's to me. My guess is that its going to be damn near impossible to find a GT350 without an ADM for the 2020MY, if you can find one at all. This is at least what I tell myself to make this grueling wait for my GT350 somewhat bearable.

 

[Wildcardfox]

I found this interesting post on YouTube.
The poster offers an interesting hypothesis on Ford's strategy to protect the GT350. What I found interesting was that (if this is correct) there will only be 2800 GT350's produced for the 2020MY and the R's will be limited to 30% of that. That doesn't seem like a whole heck of a lot of GT350's to me. My guess is that its going to be damn near impossible to find a GT350 without an ADM for the 2020MY, if you can find one at all. This is at least what I tell myself to make this grueling wait for my GT350 somewhat bearable.

The assumption that the video creator has invented that Ford is “protecting” the GT350/GT350R has no basis in what’s Ford has actually said.

https://www.hotrod.com/articles/2020-gt500-2019-shelby-bash/

Instead of watching a guy make assumptions, go to the article below and read what Ford actually said directly on the subject of the 500 and 350, and how they view them as distinct cars. If you scroll down to mid article it’s all about Ford’s comparison, or watch the video and hear a Ford executive tell you himself.

One is not a replacement for the other, and a new calculation needs to be made to see how these cars do-exist with each other.

For so long Ford fans only value horsepower and which is quicker as the deciding factor of what makes the best car, Ford has changed the calculation making two halo cars that are aimed at two separate markets and that go about achieving their goals (speed, driving experience, and power delivery) in two distinct ways.

 

[Jimichrist]

The assumption that the video creator has invented that Ford is “protecting” the GT350/GT350R has no basis in what’s Ford has actually said.

https://www.hotrod.com/articles/2020-gt500-2019-shelby-bash/

Instead of watching a guy make up assumptions, go to the article below and read what Ford actually said directly on the subject of the 500 and 350, and how they view them as distinct cars. If you scroll down to mid article it’s all about Ford’s comparison.

One is not a replacement for the other, and a new calculation needs to be made to see how these cars do-exist with each other.

For so long Ford fans only value horsepower and which is quicker as the deciding factor of what makes the best car, Ford has changed the calculation making two halo cars that are aimed at two separate markets and that go about achieving their goals (speed, driving experience, and power delivery) in two distinct ways.

The assumption that the video creator has invented that Ford is “protecting” the GT350/GT350R has no basis in what’s Ford has actually said.

https://www.hotrod.com/articles/2020-gt500-2019-shelby-bash/

Instead of watching a guy make assumptions, go to the article below and read what Ford actually said directly on the subject of the 500 and 350, and how they view them as distinct cars. If you scroll down to mid article it’s all about Ford’s comparison.

One is not a replacement for the other, and a new calculation needs to be made to see how these cars do-exist with each other.

For so long Ford fans only value horsepower and which is quicker as the deciding factor of what makes the best car, Ford has changed the calculation making two halo cars that are aimed at two separate markets and that go about achieving their goals (speed, driving experience, and power delivery) in two distinct ways.

I qualified the post as a hypothesis (assumptions must be made). Plus I am hard pressed to believe that Ford (considering both the GT350 and GT500 are being produced in the same model year) did not take into consideration the sales of one cannibalizing the sales of the other. At any rate, the main point of my post was the number of GT350's being produced in 2020. It seemed like an low number to me. If that was indeed an "assumption" then I would be curious to hear the actual number of GT350's to be produced for 2020.

 

[Justtoph]

Seems to me, that the track your vehicle site is down. Maybe they are fixing there issues)).

 

[rhino20]

Seems to me, that the track your vehicle site is down. Maybe they are fixing there issues)).

Noticed that myself and was going to post something. Perhaps they are tired of the constant complaining from people waiting for their vehicles to actually change status. I am curious to see how long it stays down. And I doubt Ford is fixing anything, they don’t have the ability to do that, especially when they don’t think it is broken in the first place.

 

[Justtoph]

Noticed that myself and was going to post something. Perhaps they are tired of the constant complaining from people waiting for their vehicles to actually change status. I am curious to see how long it stays down. And I doubt Ford is fixing anything, they don’t have the ability to do that, especially when they don’t think it is broken in the first place.

When restored, everyone will have updated delivery dates.. waiting patiently..
Has anyone heard about more shortages? Are the stearing wheels solved or not? Carbon Fiber?

 

[Wildcardfox]

I qualified the post as a hypothesis (assumptions must be made). Plus I am hard pressed to believe that Ford (considering both the GT350 and GT500 are being produced in the same model year) did not take into consideration the sales of one cannibalizing the sales of the other. At any rate, the main point of my post was the number of GT350's being produced in 2020. It seemed like an low number to me. If that was indeed an "assumption" then I would be curious to hear the actual number of GT350's to be produced for 2020.

I qualified the post as a hypothesis (assumptions must be made). Plus I am hard pressed to believe that Ford (considering both the GT350 and GT500 are being produced in the same model year) did not take into consideration the sales of one cannibalizing the sales of the other. At any rate, the main point of my post was the number of GT350's being produced in 2020. It seemed like an low number to me. If that was indeed an "assumption" then I would be curious to hear the actual number of GT350's to be produced for 2020.

The “assumption” that I was pointing towards was the person who created the video. It is an assumption that is not supported by the evidence available.

It is not a mistake that both cars will be sold at the same time, it is by design as Ford wants to repeat history of having their two halo mustangs available at dealerships.

As for the 2020 number—it is actually an increase, if the numbers are to be believed. 30% being GT350Rs would be 840 cars, which is larger than both production numbers of 2016 at 526, and than 2018 at 633. In fact, if correct, that would be the second largest GT350R run, only falling second to the 2017 number that peaked above 900 cars.

The 2020 number is low; however, only if judging it next to the 500 numbers of both the variants.

An increase would make sense being that my post stated that’s Ford is working on a different calculation and is not “protecting” the GT350R. It would make no sense for Ford to push the fact that “this is the first time in 40 years that the GT350 and GT500 will be on a dealer showroom,” if one of the vehicles was so hard to find that it might as well not exist.

Ford instead, is banking on the fact that some people will still want a high revving, flat plane crank, manual transmission’d, race inspired car instead of its new stablemate, the new 700-800hp GT500 with the DCT.

As for ADM, that is always based on the dealers because dealers are like people—some are more well off than others, and can afford to hold on to the car waiting for a whale, who will pay premium for the ability to buy the car from them.

At first, most will have ADM, expect GT350R to be around $89, which is what they always start off with, and expect the 500 to either be similar and the carbon package to be approaching or over 100k.

Things will stay like that for awhile, but there will be some dealers who either cannot afford the floor cost of keeping the car, and you will see the prices drop and some going for a small ADM, MSRP or below if the dealership is super desperate to move the car. Certain markets you will see this, high volume markets like CA and others, will not.

 

[L8APEX]

It makes sense for production numbers to decrease over time. It happened with the S197 GT500 too. I think it should be easy to get a GT350R for MSRP.

 

[95CobraR]

...as for ADM, that is always based on the dealers because dealers are like people—some are more well off than others, and can afford to hold on to the car waiting for a whale, who will pay premium for the ability to buy the car from them....

I think many privately owned dealers (local dealers that may own one or a few locations) think a bit differently. I have purchased several Ford cars and trucks from one dealer. They tend to respect the customer relationship. They give me a price, and I either take it or not.

Other dealers are owned by big players like AutoNation that have hundreds of locations (AN is traded on the stock exchange with 380 locations). These dudes are the dealers getting big ADM premiums to MSRP. No one in building cares about anything but moving iron.

I agree with your other observations.

According to my notes, the biggest production on the Voodoo GT350 was the first full year of production. It has settled lower since. I think the new GT500 will be the hot one going forward. JMO.

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