Ride height with and without MagneRide?

[benanderson89]

Hey all,
Does anyone have any pictures comparing the car with and without the adjustable suspension optioned in? I hear there is a noticeable difference in ride height.

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[Manders Mustang]

It's a few CM, but you can get springs for both to lower it a bit more if you wish.

If the UK ends up the same as the My15-17s did, we'll ride higher naturally anyway.

 

[benanderson89]

It's a few CM, but you can get springs for both to lower it a bit more if you wish.

If the UK ends up the same as the My15-17s did, we'll ride higher naturally anyway.

So not as severe as I thought. I was under the impression it was like the S197, which was "on stilts" in stock form. Just trying to figure out if the suspension will be worth it in my particular circumstances, given its a daily driver and I cruise far more frequently than I plough into a corner, and £1600 is a good chunk of cash I could put into other options or mods.

 

[Manders Mustang]

So not as severe as I thought. I was under the impression it was like the S197, which was "on stilts" in stock form. Just trying to figure out if the suspension will be worth it in my particular circumstances, given its a daily driver and I cruise far more frequently than I plough into a corner, and £1600 is a good chunk of cash I could put into other options or mods.

Saves you buying coilovers though, so there's that saving to account for, it'll also make the general driving round town a lot better, I'd spec it for a daily personally, but I also have coilovers so there's that!

 

[benanderson89]

Saves you buying coilovers though, so there's that saving to account for, it'll also make the general driving round town a lot better, I'd spec it for a daily personally, but I also have coilovers so there's that!

Very true. I always forget the "comfort" setting on adjustable systems can make life a lot more pleasant, especially in traffic.

I don't care for loads of in-car tech (especially when Android Auto is standard) and seat warmers that plug into the cigarette lighter cost nothing for those winter months; so its probably a bigger waste of money to get a Custom Pack or individual options.

Yeah, I think I'll go for it. £39,993 with the C2C discount for a base GT with magneride is still within my (admittedly low, but with reason) hard limit. I'm still waiting for a test drive though. I know people, including yourself Manders, have chastised me for even considering a Stinger GTS, but its one hell of a car. The Stinger is part of the reason why I cancelled the MY17 order enquiry.

 

[Manders Mustang]

Very true. I always forget the "comfort" setting on adjustable systems can make life a lot more pleasant, especially in traffic.

I don't care for loads of in-car tech (especially when Android Auto is standard) and seat warmers that plug into the cigarette lighter cost nothing for those winter months; so its probably a bigger waste of money to get a Custom Pack or individual options.

Yeah, I think I'll go for it. £39,993 with the C2C discount for a base GT with magneride is still within my (admittedly low, but with reason) hard limit. I'm still waiting for a test drive though. I know people, including yourself Manders, have chastised me for even considering a Stinger GTS, but its one hell of a car. The Stinger is part of the reason why I cancelled the MY17 order enquiry.

I don't disagree the stingers one hell of a car, but, it's still a kia, and it'll never get rid of that stigma no matter how much it "stings" (lel bad joke) them.

Deffo worth it for mag, but as you said, most the other extras are negligible.

Sat nav is replaced with android auto
Shaker can be replaced with aftermarket, but unless you're an audiophile you probs don't car
Heated seats, I've never had them so never seen a need, and heated wheel is standard
Reverse sensors is kinda negated with the reverse camera which does a bloody good job of showing where you're going

Man maths is brilliant when we try and "Not" or "want" us to have something, much like womens "these shoes are an investment" (for the one instagram post :frusty::lol

 

[Jimboy2]

You have to keep resale in the bike if your mind too. A well optioned car will hold its value better.
If I ever look for a 18 it will need to have mag ride a I knew it was a option. Was the same for the 16, I was NEVER going to use the Nav, but I knew the next owner would probably want it!

 

[benanderson89]

I don't disagree the stingers one hell of a car, but, it's still a kia, and it'll never get rid of that stigma no matter how much it "stings" (lel bad joke) them.

Deffo worth it for mag, but as you said, most the other extras are negligible.

Sat nav is replaced with android auto
Shaker can be replaced with aftermarket, but unless you're an audiophile you probs don't car
Heated seats, I've never had them so never seen a need, and heated wheel is standard
Reverse sensors is kinda negated with the reverse camera which does a bloody good job of showing where you're going

Man maths is brilliant when we try and "Not" or "want" us to have something, much like womens "these shoes are an investment" (for the one instagram post :frusty::lol

You sound like you're speaking from experience with the Instagram picture. ;)

I didn't know it came with a heated steering wheel as standard. That's the one feature I genuinely missed when I went from my Pro_Cee'd GT to the Mustang. That only makes the decision even more difficult. I'll sleep on it tonight and then make a call or two tomorrow.

I am an "audiophile" (as in I like good audio, not an insufferable prick with a tube amp), but I know a car is not the time or place to start throwing in a large set of speakers. I never had the radio switched on in my last car because the engine roar was so good. Everything else is moot. It has an engine and goes when I press the loud pedal, that's all I really need.

You have to keep resale in the bike if your mind too. A well optioned car will hold its value better.
If I ever look for a 18 it will need to have mag ride a I knew it was a option. Was the same for the 16, I was NEVER going to use the Nav, but I knew the next owner would probably want it!

Whilst true, I can't afford that. I can either have heated seats and a rude-boy wing OR MagneRide in a base spec GT. There's no wiggle room as I have a hard limit on monthly payments (I'm simultaneously saving for a mortgage).

 

[MrWolf]

A lot of people have been raving in the US about the Magnaride.

It became one of the must haves after reading about these.

If your worried about ride height, springs are available for Magneride equipped cars. Both FP and Eibach have springs for the GT350 which many people have fitted onto their 18s (including Bill from CJ Pony).

Steeda (and I believe BMR) are working on a set as well, so plenty of options from great companies.

Typically, I couldn’t wait and ordered a set of FP springs through CJ Pony (20% off until end of tomorrow). Will get them fitted at the same time as a set of CB005s (which I’m also purchasing tomorrow through Lethal Performance as a 15% discount starts tomorrow).

Reading this back, i almost sound like a sales rep!

 

[Gibbo205]

Very true. I always forget the "comfort" setting on adjustable systems can make life a lot more pleasant, especially in traffic.

I don't care for loads of in-car tech (especially when Android Auto is standard) and seat warmers that plug into the cigarette lighter cost nothing for those winter months; so its probably a bigger waste of money to get a Custom Pack or individual options.

Yeah, I think I'll go for it. £39,993 with the C2C discount for a base GT with magneride is still within my (admittedly low, but with reason) hard limit. I'm still waiting for a test drive though. I know people, including yourself Manders, have chastised me for even considering a Stinger GTS, but its one hell of a car. The Stinger is part of the reason why I cancelled the MY17 order enquiry.

Mag ride is a must have, particular if your gonna buy the car then sell it in a few years privately, I'd not even consider a none mag ride car in the used market, so its difference between a sale and no sale.

Cars without mag ride, get a new and improved version of what 15-17 cars came with damper/spring wise, they have now solved the rear-end float feeling our S550.1 cars had, but even still mag ride is an option most should tick.

Mag ride adds several more improvements, your not just getting an electronic damper system, this is the same DSC system as used in Ferrari's, GT 350 and other very high end performance cars, you also get a big over haul on the entire suspension by Ford when you select mag ride such as counter wund springs, uprated knuckles and stronger bearings. The mag ride cars do also seem to sit 5mm-10mm lower too, but in fairness do still need lowering but that is easily achieved with the Ford GT 350 lowering spring kit which is around $300.

Electronic dampers are a really nice thing to have in a daily driven car as most of the time you leave them in comfort, then on your favourite road or a track day you can put them into firmer track setting to keep car flatter.

Not just that, mag ride can auto adjust each damper at each corner individual to assist with handling, turn in etc. which is why its a very good system, regular passive coilovers cannot do this, in a road car magneride is a superior and better option. On a dedicated track car high-end coilovers are still preferential.

Also remember for the extra money your getting active exhaust, DRL's, lane assist, heated wheel, more power, better interior, digital cluster and as such the car needs less after market stuff to make it what it should of being from factory, its now very good from factory. As in decent exhaust, decent suspension (mag ride) and more power with better response.

On an 18 a set of 350 lowering springs, Ispiri 19" gunmetal wheels would look killer and even better you will have change form £1500 and a car that looks superb and handles very well.


Even if the Kia is a bettter equipped car, handles better, drives better, sorry its still a Kia, it aint got a V8 so you would very quickly bore of it. Mustang's trap you, they beg you to train them so they can go faster, they beg you to groom them so they can look nicer and that is the addiction. Do not get a Kia you would deeply regret it.

 

[Nookie]

I've owned one Kia, which I got rid of very quickly, and I'll never own another one again. If you ever think the build quality on the '15-'17 Mustang is poor... buy a Kia... you'll soon understand.

The only reason a Kia Stinger will ever really turn heads, is when people are looking at a Mustang parked next to it !

 

[benanderson89]

[MENTION=15536]MrWolf[/MENTION] You do, indeed, sound like a rep. :lol:

[MENTION=23824]Nookie[/MENTION] Sorry to say but I love the build quality of my Kia. Of the two I've owned both of them have been tank-like in their construction. YMMV, of course (or you got a pre-schreyer model, which were woeful).

[MENTION=13598]Gibbo205[/MENTION] I was waiting for your input on this! You're always wonderfully verbose. :lol:
Some of those standard features you mentioned (like Lane Keep) I didn't know came on the car. I think I've been looking at the MY17 standard equipment by accident now that I think about it.

I've been doing a Pros and Cons list over lunch at work, and I've circled "that V8 though" in bright red ink. That really is the clincher. I've listened to some old videos I recorded of my old V8 and its night and day with the muted stinger, which would need a new exhaust from factory (and a custom made one, too, which has a high likelihood of sounding horrible and being costly).

The Mustang commands a higher insurance cost and higher yearly tax, but the Stinger needs servicing every six months, matching cars from the likes of AMG! So all the costs end up comparable.

I'll get back into the spreadsheets and see where I get. Even the stock suspension is massively improved (according to Top Gear Magazine, amongst others), so even if I don't get MagneRide for one reason or another, I'll still end up with better suspension overall.

Plus there's the M4 baiting speed to consider.

 

[Gibbo205]

[MENTION=15536]MrWolf[/MENTION] You do, indeed, sound like a rep. :lol:

[MENTION=23824]Nookie[/MENTION] Sorry to say but I love the build quality of my Kia. Of the two I've owned both of them have been tank-like in their construction. YMMV, of course (or you got a pre-schreyer model, which were woeful).

[MENTION=13598]Gibbo205[/MENTION] I was waiting for your input on this! You're always wonderfully verbose. :lol:
Some of those standard features you mentioned (like Lane Keep) I didn't know came on the car. I think I've been looking at the MY17 standard equipment by accident now that I think about it.

I've been doing a Pros and Cons list over lunch at work, and I've circled "that V8 though" in bright red ink. That really is the clincher. I've listened to some old videos I recorded of my old V8 and its night and day with the muted stinger, which would need a new exhaust from factory (and a custom made one, too, which has a high likelihood of sounding horrible and being costly).

The Mustang commands a higher insurance cost and higher yearly tax, but the Stinger needs servicing every six months, matching cars from the likes of AMG! So all the costs end up comparable.

I'll get back into the spreadsheets and see where I get. Even the stock suspension is massively improved (according to Top Gear Magazine, amongst others), so even if I don't get MagneRide for one reason or another, I'll still end up with better suspension overall.

Plus there's the M4 baiting speed to consider.

You won't beat an M4 buddy, those things are pretty insane once rolling, you'd need the A10 to be on a par with one of those unless the M4 was a manual but literally none of them are, infact I am not sure if you can get an M4 with a stick?

 

[benanderson89]

I've ran some numbers. If the GMFV is around £19k (total guess), and the interest rate is around 3.9% like my old car, then I can have MegneRide and a few extra goodies like the silly wing for a nice chunk less than my hard limit. If its 5.9%, and/or the GMFV is well below £19k then it'll be a long wait before I order so I can save up more hard cash. If its the lower interest rate and GMFV touching £19.5k to £20k, I could potentially get the 10-speed, which would be my best friend in traffic.

The bi-yearly servicing on the Stinger has pushed that off the table for me. That'll be hell in a hand basket to deal with.

Gibbo, hence why I said M4 baiting, not beating. ;)

 

[Jimboy2]

6 monthly servicing would be a huge no no these days. Couldn’t justify it myself.
Couldn’t you worry about the wing later on? If the wing is going to stop you ticking a option you can’t fit after market I would leave it for now.

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