Ford Racing ProCal Tune

[ForYourOwnGood]

Thanks for your input. I think you're probably right. The reason I asked is bc I have an opportunity buy the the airaid tube and the dv+ DV off of a local guy for a pretty good price. Just didn't know if the tube is worth it. I think I'll just go with the dv+, because I've heard good things about it.

Definitely get the valve. I like the tube just for looks and sound, it was cheap enough that I'm not bothered by it if it doesn't gain power.

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[psssst]

I updated my car with the new tune on March 31st. I talked to the techs at FP and they said this update is supposed to take care of a flat spot around 5500 RPM. He did say that some people may not have the problem but update it anyway. I personally had this flat spot issue and the new tune seemed to help my car pull harder all the way through.

 

[TEXAS HEAT]

Link to my FRPP Pro Cal Kit for sale if interested.

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79760

 

[ForYourOwnGood]

I updated my car with the new tune on March 31st. I talked to the techs at FP and they said this update is supposed to take care of a flat spot around 5500 RPM. He did say that some people may not have the problem but update it anyway. I personally had this flat spot issue and the new tune seemed to help my car pull harder all the way through.

Holy crap you just made my day with this post. I have the same flat spot and thought something was wrong as it's really noticeable. I'll have to update asap.

 

[Dadsreward]

Velossa Big Mouth ram air kit

I have a modified GT grill on my '16 ecoboost

Would The Velossa ram air kit make for a better fit for the intake?
http://www.velossatechdesign.com/product/2015-2017-s550-mustang-big-mouth-ram-air-kit/
I haven't had either in my hands, but it looks to me it might be a good solution. I'm not debating the merits of how effective the kit is, only if it would make for a better fitment.

 

[Blackwellwa1]

I don't think it would matter as far as being a "better fit." You'd just get the benefit of the Velossatech thing (if there are any, I have no experience with it)

 

[jbailer]

I have a modified GT grill on my '16 ecoboost

Would The Velossa ram air kit make for a better fit for the intake?
http://www.velossatechdesign.com/product/2015-2017-s550-mustang-big-mouth-ram-air-kit/
I haven't had either in my hands, but it looks to me it might be a good solution. I'm not debating the merits of how effective the kit is, only if it would make for a better fitment.

The Velossa ram air kit is a great kit and meant to increase air velocity into the intake through the grill. The question is, is it really needed or can it really benefit from it.

I'm not sure if you saw my earlier post about the AirAid inlet tube but most of the same logic applies. But let's say you switched to a closed intake box like the stock one. While moving, you may get increased throttle response because more burst air could be available. Other than that, with stock fueling and turbo, there's nothing to support an intake mod to increase performance.

If you have the FRPP tune and using the GT350 air box that came with it, the increased velocity of fresh air coming through the grill may cool the intake air a little by providing more fresh air through the grill rather than the intake potentially sucking warm air from the engine compartment. I think that would be the best gain. Would be interesting to see IAT logs from both in similar circumstances.

 

[jbailer]

FRPP PRoCal 3 v1.992

I called FRPP yesterday to understand a couple things. There's been reference here to the "1.992" being a new tune. The ProCal 3 V1.92 to v1.992 change is NOT a new tune, it's an update to the ProCal software used to load the tune. However when I talked to the rep, he asked when my tune was downloaded and installed. When I told him December, he told me to upgrade the ProCal software and download the tune again. Don't skip that step, simply upgrading the software won't change your tune.

There is a difference in the software, the 2 things I noticed was that at the end of the install it would go right to "Successfully Programmed" the way it says in the instructions. With the new version, it stops and says remove power from module. Here it wants you to turn the car's auxiliary power off for at least 15 seconds and then back on. Then it completes and says, "Successfully Programmed". I also noticed they defaulted the Octane Adjust and Profile Learning to off. I think a lot of people were leaving those to the default which was enabled. They should only be enabled when necessary. The instructions say:

When to use Octane Adjust and Profile Learning

The Octane Adjust switch should only be switched to “ON” when spark retardation is desired. Some
engines have increased octane sensitivity and require spark table adjustment. By switching the Ocatne
Adjust switch to “ON” you are telling the PCM to reference a different spark table. Normally, this is only
necessary if your engine is knocking.

The Profile Learning switch should only be switched to “ON” when the engine is reporting a misfire DTC
such as P0300-P0316. By enabling this switch, the engine will prompt the driver to rev the engine to a
specific rpm until the PCM relearns the fire pattern characteristics of the trigger wheel.​

Needless to say, I disabled both of these this time since my car will only ever have 93 octane gas (calls for at least 91 octane) I didn't need the Octane Adjust and the Profile learning is more of a reactionary tool after a misfire DTC.

I'm not saying they are the only changes in the software, just the only things I noticed from an operational perspective.

 

[Dadsreward]

The Velossa ram air kit is a great kit and meant to increase air velocity into the intake through the grill. The question is, is it really needed or can it really benefit from it.

I'm not sure if you saw my earlier post about the AirAid inlet tube but most of the same logic applies. But let's say you switched to a closed intake box like the stock one. While moving, you may get increased throttle response because more burst air could be available. Other than that, with stock fueling and turbo, there's nothing to support an intake mod to increase performance.

If you have the FRPP tune and using the GT350 air box that came with it, the increased velocity of fresh air coming through the grill may cool the intake air a little by providing more fresh air through the grill rather than the intake potentially sucking warm air from the engine compartment. I think that would be the best gain. Would be interesting to see IAT logs from both in similar circumstances.

When looking at the velossa ram air scoop, the side that connects to the cold air intake is the shape of the cai included in the tune kit and not the shape of the ecoboost cai, so this should eliminate the cutting/modification that is currently necessary. That is the only benefit I am interested with using the big mouth kit.

 

[16EcomustangDIB]

Question: After i download the tune to my laptop, can i exit out of the program and drive the car to the dealership? There is a note on the instructions saying to skip step if flashing car now or later. I'm thinking yes.

 

[lizardrko]

I called FRPP yesterday to understand a couple things. There's been reference here to the "1.992" being a new tune. The ProCal 3 V1.92 to v1.992 change is NOT a new tune, it's an update to the ProCal software used to load the tune. However when I talked to the rep, he asked when my tune was downloaded and installed. When I told him December, he told me to upgrade the ProCal software and download the tune again. Don't skip that step, simply upgrading the software won't change your tune.

There is a difference in the software, the 2 things I noticed was that at the end of the install it would go right to "Successfully Programmed" the way it says in the instructions. With the new version, it stops and says remove power from module. Here it wants you to turn the car's auxiliary power off for at least 15 seconds and then back on. Then it completes and says, "Successfully Programmed". I also noticed they defaulted the Octane Adjust and Profile Learning to off. I think a lot of people were leaving those to the default which was enabled. They should only be enabled when necessary. The instructions say:

When to use Octane Adjust and Profile Learning

The Octane Adjust switch should only be switched to “ON” when spark retardation is desired. Some
engines have increased octane sensitivity and require spark table adjustment. By switching the Ocatne
Adjust switch to “ON” you are telling the PCM to reference a different spark table. Normally, this is only
necessary if your engine is knocking.

The Profile Learning switch should only be switched to “ON” when the engine is reporting a misfire DTC
such as P0300-P0316. By enabling this switch, the engine will prompt the driver to rev the engine to a
specific rpm until the PCM relearns the fire pattern characteristics of the trigger wheel.​

Needless to say, I disabled both of these this time since my car will only ever have 93 octane gas (calls for at least 91 octane) I didn't need the Octane Adjust and the Profile learning is more of a reactionary tool after a misfire DTC.

I'm not saying they are the only changes in the software, just the only things I noticed from an operational perspective.

Thanks for the insight. So the dead spots in the high RPM range that FP claimed is fixed were due to faults in the ProCal software itself and not the actual tune file? That seems rather strange

 

[jbailer]

Thanks for the insight. So the dead spots in the high RPM range that FP claimed is fixed were due to faults in the ProCal software itself and not the actual tune file? That seems rather strange

No, they are 2 different things. My point was simply upgrading the software to v1.992 isn't all you need to do, you also need to download the tune again. The tune is what will fix the dead spot and I see no way to tell what version of the tune you have.

 

[jbailer]

Question: After i download the tune to my laptop, can i exit out of the program and drive the car to the dealership? There is a note on the instructions saying to skip step if flashing car now or later. I'm thinking yes.

Yes and there are 2 different places you could stop. You could setup the account and download and install the software and stop there. Or better yet, you could then connect it to the car and download the tune itself, then shut it down and take it to the dealer for the install.

 

[jbailer]

When looking at the velossa ram air scoop, the side that connects to the cold air intake is the shape of the cai included in the tune kit and not the shape of the ecoboost cai, so this should eliminate the cutting/modification that is currently necessary. That is the only benefit I am interested with using the big mouth kit.

I didn't know the inlet matched the same shape as the GT350 before cutting, that's nice and will be slightly better than the goofy cutting and folding of the inlet per the instructions.

 

[16EcomustangDIB]

Yes and there are 2 different places you could stop. You could setup the account and download and install the software and stop there. Or better yet, you could then connect it to the car and download the tune itself, then shut it down and take it to the dealer for the install.

Thanks. Right now i stopped after the software download. So next step is follow " Prep the vehicle for flashing" and if i didn't get any DTC error proceed to down load calibration. Correct? Thanks, just making sure.

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