Any dyno graphs with Comp cr Stg 3 cams?

[16MustangVet]

with the lack of info on ALL cams for these engines im not to sure id do off the shelf cams

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[Terminator2]

I forget who made the comment that a H/C/I 5.0 on FTW would barely crack 500 wheel. As posted earlier in the thread, I hit 500whp on 93 with bolt-ons and cams. It's very doable.

Revauto said I'd pick up another 30-40whp with heads. 530-540whp isn't off the table, N/A. Yes, the right tuner and parts combo are essential.

Bang for buck for my 3.31 FD:
1) Intake/Tune
2) Headers
3) Manifold

For a 3.73 FD, I'd switch the manifold and the headers on that list. Running a big rpm mani on 3.31 is a waste.

A big rpm manifold on a 3.31 car is definitely not a waste. Especially with how aggressive the MT82s ratios are. A MT82 with 3.31s is about the same as the 3v manual cars were with 4.10s. 3.73s might be superior for certain setups depending on tire size.

 

[armykyle1 [HACKED ACCOUNT]

Another cam thread with no good news....

 

[09jsw]

Another cam thread with no good news....

Well since nobody has data and I've been told by several shops and tuners that springs are needed with the new comps I'm going to do the L&M intake cams. The L&M are drop in and guarantee 20hp with no loss.
I'm not doing springs at this time.

 

[mustang_guy]

I cant believe anyone would use L&M for anything after they tanked their rep on svtp with how Badcompany was done.

 

[WestCyril]

For NA builds cams are just preference honestly. Especially with new 15+ Aluminator motor being as good as it is from the factory.

Local Mustang shop here has done plenty of cam, lockout setups but only on FI builds pushing well over 25+psi 1100+ whp. VCT starts acting up at those power levels and aggressive timing.

These cars are gaining 30+ wheel same boost after cam install. Although cam install doesn't show much gain on a dyno the powerband has to be drastically improved. Car has to be completely different animal on the street and track.

 

[09jsw]

I cant believe anyone would use L&M for anything after they tanked their rep on svtp with how Badcompany was done.

I have yet to see bad info on them. You seem to be the only one. Feel free to post some up.
FYI they aren't L&M cams, they are made by comp with Shaun @Aed specs

 

[09jsw]

For NA builds cams are just preference honestly. Especially with new 15+ Aluminator motor being as good as it is from the factory.

Local Mustang shop here has done plenty of cam, lockout setups but only on FI builds pushing well over 25+psi 1100+ whp. VCT starts acting up at those power levels and aggressive timing.

These cars are gaining 30+ wheel same boost after cam install. Although cam install doesn't show much gain on a dyno the powerband has to be drastically improved. Car has to be completely different animal on the street and track.

Cams on a NA car are far from preference, they are necessary for trying to maximize the power.

 

[mustang_guy]

I have yet to see bad info on them. You seem to be the only one. Feel free to post some up.

Hop on svtp. The site cant be linked here anyway. Its pretty common knowledge about what Evolution and L&M pulled on this gt500 owner. The original thread with hundreds of pages got deleted a few years ago. I promise im not the only one in the cobra community that knows of this.

 

[09jsw]

Hop on svtp. The site cant be linked here anyway. Its pretty common knowledge about what Evolution and L&M pulled on this gt500 owner. The original thread with hundreds of pages got deleted a few years ago. I promise im not the only one in the cobra community that knows of this.

I couldn't find more than a few posts on it.
Anyway I fixed my post but it was too late. They are comp cams made with Shaun from Aed specs only under L&M name.

 

[veeefour]

Will be ordering a set of comp cams like in 2-3 weeks. Just need to find someone who doesn't want to rip 600-700$ for shipping form me!!!

There's a gain with cams but not 60-70 hp like it use to be - more like 30-40 tops with S550. Comp Cams says those are NSR so I'm not sure
from where that info is coming from? S550's coyote already comes with Boss springs so they are already upgraded and you really don't need
anything else here. More to say - try to compare some data and you will find that comp cams differs in duration only - lift has hardly changed.

 

[09jsw]

Will be ordering a set of comp cams like in 2-3 weeks. Just need to find someone who doesn't want to rip 600-700$ for shipping form me!!!

There's a gain with cams but not 60-70 hp like it use to be - more like 30-40 tops with S550. Comp Cams says those are NSR so I'm not sure
from where that info is coming from? S550'c coyote already comes with Boss spring so they are already upgraded and you really don't need
anything else here. More to say - try to compare some data and you will find that comp cams differs in duration only - lift is hardly changed.

I spoken to Comp Cams, JPC , a cam specialist shop and few others that all said if revving higher than stock you will need springs stronger than the stock boss we have. I've gone over this for weeks and have come up with this info which is why I'm not getting comps.
Thes new comp cams are more aggressive than the last and the last ones would max out the boss springs.
It's not just the lift that causes float it's the ramp rates in question.

 

[veeefour]

I spoke with them as well - they said they are NSR. Stage 3 is rated up to 7500 rpm. Speaking from experience and from other dyno graphs as well,
Coyote makes most power not where the GT350 intake manifold is advertised to make. Statistically peak power is located closer to 7200 rpm,
not 7500 rpm. Stage 3 cams are rated up to 7500 rpm so unless you are going to build new engine with new rotating Assembly and going to
spin over 8 grand those springs will work just fine.

Try to study the data first - if you can - those cams differs with duration only so how on earth they can be super aggressive? Duration can be tuned with VCT.
The "lift" is your problem and like I said before - it's was hardly even changed in Comp cams.

Most technicians those days base their knowledge on S197's engine which I would not dare to call "legit" - most says the firing order on S550 was
changed which is a BS. S550 is nothing alike S197 - even cam chains were changed...

 

[09jsw]

I spoke with them as well - they said they are NSR. Stage 3 is rated up to 7500 rpm. Speaking from experience and from other dyno graphs as well,
Coyote makes most power not where the GT350 intake manifold is advertised to make. Statistically peak power is located closer to 7200 rpm,
not 7500 rpm. Stage 3 cams are rated up to 7500 rpm so unless you are going to build new engine with new rotating Assembly and going to
spin over 8 grand those springs will work just fine.

Try to study the data first - if you can - those cams differs with duration only so how on earth they can be super aggressive? Duration can be tuned with VCT.
The "lift" is your problem and like I said before - it's was hardly even changed in Comp cams.

Most technicians those days base their knowledge on S197's engine which I would not dare to call "legit" - most says the firing order on S550 was
changed which is a BS. S550 is nothing alike S197 - even cam chains were changed...

I have a cobra jet and plan to run 7900rpm. Even running to 7500 would be too much and that cam from tech guy at Comp cams.

 

[09jsw]

The cams selling labeled NSR are a marketing ploy. Comp told me constantly spinning over stock limit would need springs.

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