I'm not a PMAS swinger, I just liked their idea of a no tune intake and decided to purchase it. Definitely not show quality, but I'm into function more than form. For the car show enthusiasts, JLT would their ideal choice.
Whoops, sorry! Fixed.:cheers:
Read what was written. I made 454whp on the same dyno BEFORE I changed to the pmas, long tubes, and gt350tb. I lost hp on the dyno with the same tune. I gained only 5whp and 10wtq from a dyno tune, adding long tubes, a gt350tb, and switched from a jlt to pmas. I attribute the gains from the headers only. I do not believe the pmas gained anything over the jlt with my setup. Maybe for someone with cams and or headwork it will make more of a difference. Your comment about the velocity stack is ridiculous! I paid good money for a well built CAI. I should not have to wait for them to send me a new one because it falls apart in the first month of having it on the car. Not to mention it could have caused a tuning problem if I did not catch that it was falling off. Unacceptable to release a product like this to the public without making sure it will hold up well. All the other major intake companies released well made products. I liked the science and flow numbers and with some better clamps and epoxy you can make it work but in the end, it made no extra power and fits poorly (contacts hood) with the gt350im. I was all in for the PMAS with what others had posted about it, but I was disappointed by the results as well as the finished product. If I didn't sell my JLT I would have put it back on and returned this intake. I may still buy a gt350 version of the JLT since it also has a 120mm tube. I really believe that is probably where any advantage the pmas had over the gt version of other intakes anyway. If it was built better I would recommend it to people as it does perform well. But its not and I believe its been through at least 1 revision already. I definitely don't recommend anyone buy it to replace another one thinking you will see any power worth the trouble/money. This is just my opinion and experience.
Thats what I thought too but they're the same ones as several members here running bottom 11's. They can't be too bad. I still think the 350tb might have lost me a few horses. I had both Lund and Rev tune the car so its not like I had yo-yos tuning. Keep in mind I had Mak cat deletes before so the gains are not from stock headers with cats.
Wierd though.. you would figure a minimum of 20ish rwhp with long tubes. How was power/torque under the curve? did that improve? You can gain 4hp peak, but gain 20 in the mid range.
Lots of people see the engine bay... potentially thousands if you do lots of car shows... even more if you have a social media following... friends, neighbors, people at the track/strip, YOU, anyone working on the car, etc. Just because you swim in small circles doesn't mean other people don't have a reason for their car to look its best. Just saying, everyone has their reasons.
