2015-2016 Tech Pack and Base GT350 Cooler Solution Discussion

[Caballus]

I'm fine with warranty fraud(I don't consider it fraud I consider it working the system), they are fine with voiding your warranty when your radio breaks because you changed your headlight bulbs

No they make more on non warranty work. So they have a motive to void you warranty if they can

1. To each his own, but may not want to recommend others commit crimes...though I guess it's up to them whether they take the advice.

2. Didn't know that. Thanks.

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[firestarter2]

Understood to each their own

 

[Tank]

A fluid change to a good manual transmission fluid would be a simple fix that would help with these issues. At least than you can enjoy the car until a permanent solution comes along. It would just seem to be more productive.

Any warranty implications, particularly since it is unlikely that a dealer would be involved in a non-OEM fluid change?

Had to do some digging...the standard for the Motorcraft Mercon LV Automatic Transmission Fluid (Ford Part # XT-10-QLVC) was not included in the Shelby Supplemental Manual. According to Fordservicecontent.com, the standard is WSS-M2C938-A. I did a search to see if there were any other transmission fluids that fall under this standard and came up empty. Does anyone else know of an alternative that complies with this standard?

Unrelated, Cabellus, how'd your repairs go yesterday? Hopefully they went well...

 

[shelby24]

Had to do some digging...the standard for the Motorcraft Mercon LV Automatic Transmission Fluid (Ford Part # XT-10-QLVC) was not included in the Shelby Supplemental Manual. According to Fordservicecontent.com, the standard is WSS-M2C938-A. I did a search to see if there were any other transmission fluids that fall under this standard and came up empty. Does anyone else know of an alternative that complies with this standard?

Unrelated, Cabellus, how'd your repairs go yesterday? Hopefully they went well...

I know Royal Purple was not compatible with Mercon LV and I don't think that Mobil 1 synthetic ATF was compatible either though not 100% on that

 

[Minn19]

While I disgree with 95% of what lemers says. If you install a cooler I'd assume you would have no warranty. Despite the rules the most dealers will void you warranty if they can.

Your best bet would be to install a cooler in a way that was not permanent and of you have a issue remove it before service.

You could also put something inline with the sensor (resistor?) To reduce the temp the car thinks you are running , limit your sessions to thirty minutes and change the fluid more often.

If it is Ford parts installed by Ford technicians they should offer a warranty IMO.

It wouldn't be that hard to see that you installed a transmission cooler through various ways.

 

[firestarter2]

If it is Ford parts installed by Ford technicians they should offer a warranty IMO.

It wouldn't be that hard to see that you installed a transmission cooler through various ways.

How if you use stock mounting? The rest is the drain and fill port on the tranny?

In any case its approach not recommending it but one option in a bunch of what seem like less ideal ones.

I see no reason why the full retrofit should not be warrantied. But a full retrofit plus ford labor you are really close to the cost to trade to a 2017.

 

[Minn19]

How if you use stock mounting? The rest is the drain and fill port on the tranny?

In any case its approach not recommending it but one option in a bunch of what seem like less ideal ones.

I see no reason why the full retrofit should not be warrantied. But a full retrofit plus ford labor you are really close to the cost to trade to a 2017.

You are going to leave marks everywhere. It wouldn't be hard for a tech to figure out what was going on there. Not to mention the computer logs would show the transmission temps lower than other tech cars.

Anywhere, it wouldn't take a world class detective to figure it out IMO. ;)

 

[Optimum Performance]

BG Syncro Shift II is designed to replace all ATF's used in Manual transmissions. It's been around for years. It can not void a warranty unless it is proven to cause the failure of the component. I have not heard of Ford repairing anything of the trans. temp issues under warranty. How is that warranty coverage working out? BG stands behind it, the Shelby just has a Tremec, it is not some new rocket engine, it's actually been out in the Caddy for several model years now. ATF'S do not do well in manuals.

Meeting a spec vs making your investment drivable is a choice you have to make. It's why we put the kits for the Shelby's together in the first place. We have a handful of Members on the forum with Shelby's running BG, side effects so far has been how much better it shifts and not getting hot instantly. Hundreds and hundreds of BG kits in MT82'S all over the world, not a single complaint or failure. Oh and it doesn't meet the MT82 spec either, its far above it

 

[Optimum Performance]

Read this Thread: http://mustang6g.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1495634&postcount=1

 

[Agent_S550]

Well considering many many Ford Dealers use BG products.. I don't think you'll have any issues running it.

 

[Caballus]

Had to do some digging...the standard for the Motorcraft Mercon LV Automatic Transmission Fluid (Ford Part # XT-10-QLVC) was not included in the Shelby Supplemental Manual. According to Fordservicecontent.com, the standard is WSS-M2C938-A. I did a search to see if there were any other transmission fluids that fall under this standard and came up empty. Does anyone else know of an alternative that complies with this standard?

Unrelated, Cabellus, how'd your repairs go yesterday? Hopefully they went well...

Thanks for the research. I'll do some digging on my end as well. Since I take full advantage of living minutes from one of the best stretches of unrestricted Autobahn in the country, any warrantied measures that will mitigate the overheating flaw are welcome.

Service session went well, but had to reschedule repairs for next week. Service manager took a test drive with me to confirm the second gear rattle, which was confirmed. He said they would need several hours for the seat and a good diagnosis of "the rattle." So, we rescheduled for 0700 next week to give them all day.

The dealership is good--standard German service. Appointment times matter, and all are professional and on point. They are not well versed on the GT350 though (as one would expect), so I'm going to be cautious when it comes to the shifter. Seats are less of a concern for me.

The manager reinforced to me that he is not allowed "to turn a single screw" on an warrantied American spec Ford without permission from the US warranty office in Cologne. Not sure if they reach back to Detroit or make the call on their own, but he went on to point out that "they are very busy, so sometimes they respond within 24 hours and sometimes it takes weeks." Interesting system (nice way of saying micromanagement at its finest).

I also have a bad air leak on the driver's side door (sounds like you're riding on the outside of the car), but I'll hold off on that and any discussions of limp mode until we can get the first issues solved.

Anyway, thanks for asking.

 

[Mystic_Cobra]

Any warranty implications, particularly since it is unlikely that a dealer would be involved in a non-OEM fluid change?

Are you suggesting that only a dealer can change fluids?

 

[Mystic_Cobra]

Just going to address these two:

4. AFAIK, FR is basically the same as aftermarket. No different than buying a part from any other vendor. A part from them will not be covered by your new vehicle warranty any more than a part from Lethal Performance would be. That said, if you have a good relationship with a dealership and they installed the FR parts... In the past, FR has offered warranties on the parts in a kit (Power Pack, Super Pack, Handling Pack, etc...) as long as the parts were installed by a Ford service shop. Maybe they'll do the same for this kit.

5. The vehicle warranty is not being voided. If you buy the cooler kit with an external pump the transmission warranty is not being voided. Tank called and asked and was told the transmission warranty would not be voided. I know you saw it, you selectively quoted part of his post immediately afterward.

You just contradicted yourself. You say FR is the same as aftermarket but wrt to the kits you mention warranty is included. Try that with an aftermarket kit. Yes, I know it is very limited.

 

[5.0 435]

Solved the trans problem , as most know I sold the GT350 tech for $57K ....3 months ago ..... I hit limp mode once and that's it...Paid a little under MSRP because of a trade. Found a 16 black GT 350 track car with 1000 miles for $57K . Did another trade so no tax. Now every thing is fine in Shelby land. These dealers in Atlanta are still asking $10K over MSRP for a 17 GT350.

 

[lemers]

Solved the trans problem , as most know I sold the 350 tech car 3 months ago . Paid a little under MSRP because of a trade. Found a 16 black 350 track car with 1000 miles for $57K . Did another trade so no tax. Now every thing is fine in Shelby land. These dealers in Atlanta are still asking $10K over MSRP for a 17 350.

Congrats on the deal

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