2015-2016 Tech Pack and Base GT350 Cooler Solution Discussion

[arsenalrocks]

happened to me during a pass by me, instructor told me to upshift asap to gain speed.

yes it is very dangerous especially during a passing move. I don't feel comfortable driving in B group or above knowing it can limp at any time.

Luckily the first time it happened to me I was on the main straight by myself. The second time was a little more dangerous as I was 15 minutes in, mid pass, and door to door with a Porsche when all of a sudden my car cut power. I was lucky I was off line. If I would have finished the pass and hit limp mode when getting back on line, it could have easily caused a crash.

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[arsenalrocks]

engine oil cooler is on ALL gt350s

Thats awesome especially at that price! Dumb question do the Techs have a oil cooler the marketing information is vague one way or the other.

 

[firestarter2]

Ford needs to know how dangerous the situation is on the track running with cars of equal power. :shrug:
Hitting limp mode in traffic not good.

Ford doesnt expect you be tracking a non track pack car..:frusty:

The scenario where ford DID NOT know the tech packs would over heat on the track does not exist

 

[JN66]

Ford doesnt expect you be tracking a non track pack car..:frusty:

The scenario where ford DID NOT know the tech packs would over heat on the track does not exist

Instead of hitting your head against the wall because you feel you've repeated yourself so often, perhaps you just show some restraint and not post? The internet is a strange place where people just won't listen to strangers, nor do they typically care about a strangers opinion.

I'd just leave it alone bro. You will think what you think. Others will think what they think. Best to say an opinion once and just leave it at that...imo anyway (but I am a stranger and you may not listen! :headbonk

 

[firestarter2]

Instead of hitting your head against the wall because you feel you've repeated yourself so often, perhaps you just show some restraint and not post? The internet is a strange place where people just won't listen to strangers, nor do they typically care about a strangers opinion.

I'd just leave it alone bro. You will think what you think. Others will think what they think. Best to say an opinion once and just leave it at that...imo anyway (but I am a stranger and you may not listen! :headbonk

Im trying to restrain my self, ive been responding less. Soon Ill read about a tech car having a accident on a track and blaming ford. If you have a TECH car do not track it or build in a cool down anything else is just irresponsible.

 

[Aurelius]

Instead of hitting your head against the wall because you feel you've repeated yourself so often, perhaps you just show some restraint and not post? The internet is a strange place where people just won't listen to strangers, nor do they typically care about a strangers opinion.

I'd just leave it alone bro. You will think what you think. Others will think what they think. Best to say an opinion once and just leave it at that...imo anyway (but I am a stranger and you may not listen! :headbonk

Why even feed the troll? He stated earlier he wanted a 17 electronics package but didn't want to pay extra and opted for a 16. Now that the tech guys might have a solution coming he's upset about his choice and not having the best of both worlds.

 

[Tomster]

Im trying to restrain my self, ive been responding less. Soon Ill read about a tech car having a accident on a track and blaming ford. If you have a TECH car do not track it or build in a cool down anything else is just irresponsible.

I said something similar once and it caused quite the uproar. careful ;)

 

[lemers]

Im trying to restrain my self, ive been responding less. Soon Ill read about a tech car having a accident on a track and blaming ford. If you have a TECH car do not track it or build in a cool down anything else is just irresponsible.

You're right. All cars that are not specific "track" cars from any manufacturer should be banned from every track.

 

[firestarter2]

Why even feed the troll? He stated earlier he wanted a 17 electronics package but didn't want to pay extra and opted for a 16. Now that the tech guys might have a solution coming he's upset about his choice and not having the best of both worlds.

Why would I be upset... sorry no.. If want to Nav I can get the upgrade I already priced it. Id NEVER buy a tech then spend money to retro in coolers. WTF is 3K on a 57K car?

I am happy the tech guys are getting a fix. Im annoyed no one wants to own their decision. To the point people are endangering others tracking their cars. Sure some people might of been misled.

 

[firestarter2]

You're right. All cars that are not specific "track" cars from any manufacturer should be banned from every track.

Is that sarcasm? I said dont track OR build in a cool down. Going into limp with a car behind you on a straight or mid corner is dangerous.

Why is that even a debate?

 

[Hack]

You're right. All cars that are not specific "track" cars from any manufacturer should be banned from every track.

I agree with this. Every car that doesn't have the word track in the option list should be banned from the road course. GT3, 488, Z06...

When I was at the track and it hit limp mode I just shifted. The first time I was surprised by it, but since I had previous knowledge about what would probably happen I don't believe it was dangerous at any point.

If you are on the track with other drivers who can't accommodate a change in your car's acceleration you are in trouble anyway.

 

[superman07]

The only folks not wanting to own a decision from my perspective is Ford, and their respective fan boys. They purposely plugged the entire line / nameplate as capable, then specified the cooler enabled cars as all day long track cars. The idea any of the flagship trim levels cannot hit the fun button for more than a couple minutes and is acceptable is flat out ridiculous. No-one I have seen has stated in any capacity folks expected a full day track machine. Long highway runs in advanced heat, and HPDE events should be fair game.

The most important aspect was they sourced a different transmission to save 800 dollars. This singular decision, cutting off easy cooler upgrades cements the incompetence in this regard.

If someone cant fathom that they simply refuse to listen to the nuances of the discussion.

If any semblance of what you say was true Ford would not have modified trim levels, as tech outsold track, and they would not be concerned with the solution, at any cost.

 

[cosmo]

Is that sarcasm? I said dont track OR build in a cool down. Going into limp with a car behind you on a straight or mid corner is dangerous.

Why is that even a debate?

Because Ford lead everyone to have no doubt that the GT350 would be able to handle track time. It was more of an implication that you'll track better/longer with the track pack, not that you won't be able to track without it. Just like the assumption that the tech package enhanced the tech in the car, not that the car didn't come with any tech without the tech package.

The only area previous to release where it was hinted that the trans/diff coolers were necessary for track time was in the owners manual. You know, the thing you get AFTER buying the car. When the order pools opened, people had no idea. Now they've been left in the dark with their $60k car which has difficulty tracking while a 1999 Miata laps all day.

 

[firestarter2]

Because Ford lead everyone to have no doubt that the GT350 would be able to handle track time. It was more of an implication that you'll track better/longer with the track pack, not that you won't be able to track without it. Just like the assumption that the tech package enhanced the tech in the car, not that the car didn't come with any tech without the tech package.

The only area previous to release where it was hinted that the trans/diff coolers were necessary for track time was in the owners manual. You know, the thing you get AFTER buying the car. When the order pools opened, people had no idea. Now they've been left in the dark with their $60k car which has difficulty tracking while a 1999 Miata laps all day.

I agree with this post but the car (from posts) seems to take a few laps to limp. One guy says 3.5 minutes averaging 163mph so on a track Id expect it would take a lot longer

Marketing is marketing I see what you are saying but cars routinely use the best trim of a car to describe all trims in advertisements.

And this isnt the first mustang to hit Limp(gt500) on the track. Im not a mustang guy it seems like a lot of folks here are.

When I built the car I saw the track and the tech and I then researched the differences. I know a lot of people just bought what was on the lot and probably never even saw the web site.

NOW that we know the situation tracking a Tech car knowing it may go into limp is irresponsible with out some proactive steps (Cool down sessions,etc)

 

[Sprintamx]

Doesn't the supplement state "extended" track driving, not any/all track driving requires coolers? Telling point, no?

Ford made a choice that eliminated any direct OE upgrade path. Very frustrating, and not any purchaser's fault or responsibility.

I personally do not agree with the opinion that a car which is equipped with one of the best motors, suspension and brake packages and a transmission/diff package that is mechanically capable of handling high revelotions and power should be assumed to have to retire from road course driving before tires reach effective operating temperature.

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