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2016 and up EB are way slower?

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ChevyTrend doubles down.

http://www.motortrend.com/news/ecob...id=740585435185831936&adbpl=tw&adbpr=25383000

Continuing on the recent discussions we've been having over in the mustang versus section of the forum, motortrend had the aduacity to publish this article. Take a good read keeping in mind that MT tested the 2.3 mustang using 87 octane gas which all of us know makes it slower. Significantly. Despite the mustang beating the camaro in every other aspect of the testing, MT spun the language to favor the camaro.http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56069
The last section of the article compares the mustang as it was against the camaro with heavily upgraded tires, suggesting that the only thing holding the Camaro back was the tires. Personally my mustang still stock and auto pulls to 60 in 5.3. So the way I see it the only category in which the camaro did "win" was rigged at the start. In the article they also claim they tested both cars with premium fuel, and the edited article on the comparison test indicates they used premium fuel on both, after they revised the article. The initial article stated correctly that 87 octane fuel was used in the mustang and was later edited out of the reading entirely.
I used to love MT, but now I'm done, never again. Above all that is the idea of comparison testing not being conducted under and sort of scientific or factual reasoning, and deception to indicate that it was used in conducting these tests. Kinda blown away by the bias.
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I just feel sorry for the people who read this and buy a Camaro and then meet a Mustang on the street... :frusty:
 

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http://www.motortrend.com/news/ecob...id=740585435185831936&adbpl=tw&adbpr=25383000

Continuing on the recent discussions we've been having over in the mustang versus section of the forum, motortrend had the aduacity to publish this article. Take a good read keeping in mind that MT tested the 2.3 mustang using 87 octane gas which all of us know makes it slower. Significantly. Despite the mustang beating the camaro in every other aspect of the testing, MT spun the language to favor the camaro.http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56069
The last section of the article compares the mustang as it was against the camaro with heavily upgraded tires, suggesting that the only thing holding the Camaro back was the tires. Personally my mustang still stock and auto pulls to 60 in 5.3. So the way I see it the only category in which the camaro did "win" was rigged at the start. In the article they also claim they tested both cars with premium fuel, and the edited article on the comparison test indicates they used premium fuel on both, after they revised the article. The initial article stated correctly that 87 octane fuel was used in the mustang and was later edited out of the reading entirely.
I used to love MT, but now I'm done, never again. Above all that is the idea of comparison testing not being conducted under and sort of scientific or factual reasoning, and deception to indicate that it was used in conducting these tests. Kinda blown away by the bias.
Thoughts?
They tested with 91 according to the author of the article. At one point a different editor in the comments section said 87 was used, but it was clarified by the author of the article.

The original article did not say 87 was used. Only that 87 was recommend by Ford (which is the case).

I wouldn't really be bothered by this, its a ludicrously small sample size and so many variables can alter the results.

My EB is a few months old, and I have achieved better 0-60 times than MT did, and I am far from a professional driver who does this day in and day out.

Also, is it a big deal if the Camaro performs better (which it didn't overall in the original article anyhow)? It wouldn't change my enjoyment of my car in the least.

I tested both the EB and v6 16 Camaro when shopping for my car. I preferred the EB.
 

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Also, is it a big deal if the Camaro performs better.. It wouldn't change my enjoyment of my car in the least.

I tested both the EB and v6 16 Camaro when shopping for my car. I preferred the EB.
It really doesn't matter who's faster or how many cylinders you have as long as you enjoy your ride. There is always a faster/better handling car out there.
 

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Well bottom line, some people are Mustang guys and some are Camaro guys. Both have their strong points and mildly weak points. My choice was Mustang just for the level of trim and ride comfort. I enjoy sitting like an adult in the cockpit. I am very pleased even though I like the way the Camaro's vert top stows more level but the rest of the car has no appeal to me. The performance is not that far apart but always interesting to point out that Mustang did not have to rely solely on more cubic inches to get performance!
 

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This is literally one thread down from the other dumb thread about the same dumb thing.
 

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I debunked this theory today with my stock 16 A/T. Green drop-in filter and catch can only on 93.
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The issue is in the manual transmission. I have a 16 ecoboost and it has a massive delay between shifts. Looks like the factory tune on 16 got revised
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