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Nothing documented unfortunately, but this isnt rocket science either, a water pump takes HP to turn, the question is how much, the answer is the faster you spin it the more HP it eats. Electric water pumps are nothing new in this industry, it seems most pump manufacturers including this one all seem to claim 10-15 HP. Some searching among the different manufacturers may yield some TRUE back to back testing. Our goals was to simply make a kit to eliminate the bulky water pump for turbo and supercharger applications, the HP gains were simply icing on the cake for us!
Okay, so it seems you haven't actually seen a 15 (and more) HP gain you are just taking a figure an electric pump maker claims for a completely unknown vehicle.

To claim a savings or gain, you need two numbers: a before and an after. If neither the before and/or the after is a Mustang, a 15 HP savings is completely misleading and meaningless. Is the 15HP plus a Mustang or a Kenworth (for example)?

In your earlier post you said you have seen a greater than 15 HP savings. Are you saying that was for a current model Mustang? If so, what model? And since you don't have the dyno chart, how can you be sure you remember correctly?

Can you clarify, please?
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Certainly, the model we tested was a 2011 5.0 Coyote, we used a moroso universal electric water pump, we saw approx 15 HP which repeated with 3 runs with no other changes, unfortunately this was back in 2012 and we do not have a sheet. Perhaps ask Ford racing what they picked up on the CJ, it may be a good reference for those interested in the HP gain aspect of the product. And again, to be clear the product was designed for clearance, the HP gains are certainly a nice bye product however!
 

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Can some one explain to me how an electric pump can save any HP? A traditional pump takes energy to turn, but so does an an electric pump. Where does an electric pump get power from? The alternator of course which will require more torque to rotate if there is more power drawn from it.... This all sounds like a bunch of snake oil to me....
 

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Can some one explain to me how an electric pump can save any HP? A traditional pump takes energy to turn, but so does an an electric pump. Where does an electric pump get power from? The alternator of course which will require more torque to rotate if there is more power drawn from it.... This all sounds like a bunch of snake oil to me....
Does the electric motor create less of a load than the mechanical pump?

And even if it didn't it could still save power for drag racing if the car freewheels the alternator at full throttle until the battery can't keep up. I have no idea if that happens in these cars but it was common for cars to free wheel the AC compressor at full throttle to increase power to the wheels so I don't see why the same couldn't be done for the alternator.
 

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Can some one explain to me how an electric pump can save any HP? A traditional pump takes energy to turn, but so does an an electric pump. Where does an electric pump get power from? The alternator of course which will require more torque to rotate if there is more power drawn from it.... This all sounds like a bunch of snake oil to me....
While I do not have any numbers....as your rpms go up, in my case 8K rpms the water creates more resistance than is does at 2, 3, 4K rpms and so on.
Remember at high rpms your pushing through the T-stat and all the badly shaped coolant passage ways.
Being able to do a quick cool down between rounds takes away another trial and error factor by keeping the car consistent.
This is not for everyone, but someone like me, is interested in the concept.
 

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I'd like an electric A/C because my compressor robs SO MUCH POWER when it kicks on.
 

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No they didnt have electric water pumps,they had gear driven water pumps that ran off the cam.They also had that raggedy opti spark ign that messed up everytime it got wet.Genius idea to put the distributor right under the water pump.
 
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