Ford Racing Performance Cam

[KadenW23]

Hello, with this being my first post I would like to say that I'm stoked to finally be a member of the ecoboost community and will give you a brief run down of the car so you have a better understanding of what I drive.

The car is a 2015 oxford white ecoboost with around 18k miles. Engine mods are as follows: HPS CAI, MAP Downpipe to 3" straights, cobb accessport v3, turbo smart blow off valve, and a stage 2 snow performance meth injection kit. Pretty much your basic bolt-ons to help the engine breathe a little better.

But here is my main question: Ive been looking a litter further into the ford racing cam that they currently make but with the car being so new, there isn't a whole lot of information as to the true specs of the cam other than what is on CJ Ponyparts. So is there anybody that is running the cam? if so, have you measured the clearance since the cam has been put on? Personally, I'm not too worried about it since its a direct replacement straight from ford, but I would really like to get and unbiased opinion from someone who is actually running the cam. I would much rather be safe than sorry. Any sort of input is greatly appreciated.

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[PewterCam]

Couple vendors have tried the cams.. they were not worth the cost. I think it was literally something like a 7-10hp gain on a car with full bolt on's and a big turbo.

 

[KadenW23]

Couple vendors have tried the cams.. they were not worth the cost. I think it was literally something like a 7-10hp gain on a car with full bolt on's and a big turbo.

Well that is unfortunate, traditionally you can get quite a jump in power with a decent cam without going too aggressive and still maintaining drivability.

 

[PewterCam]

its not much of an upgraded cam. I have the specs saved but I don't have the original post saved of who had them profiled..

"Got the results from the cam profiling.
Intake cam
Max lift 0.353"
Duration @ 0.50 lift, 207 degrees
Duration @ 0.350 lift, 20 degrees

Exh Cam
Max Lift 0.307"
Duration @ 0.50 lift 203 degrees
Duration @ 0.300 lift 30 degrees

Intake cam lift increased from 7.9mm to 9.0 mm and duration increased 4 degrees to 240 degrees (total degrees)
Exhaust cam lift increased from 7.4mm to 7.8mm and duration increased 16 degrees to 240 degrees (total degrees)"

Also it sounded just like stock. No difference at all between stock sound and the upgraded cams. Also it requires special tools to install the cams and takes 4-6 hours labor to install them properly. I'm sure others that have direct experience will reply as well. The head design completely limits the use of large lift/duration cams.

 

[v8440]

I'm not surprised to see that the duration is reverse split. Turbo applications that use small turbos (and therefore have lots of backpressure) seem to benefit from less exhaust duration. I guess that ensures that charge reversion doesn't happen because of high backpressure.

 

[KadenW23]

its not much of an upgraded cam. I have the specs saved but I don't have the original post saved of who had them profiled..

"Got the results from the cam profiling.
Intake cam
Max lift 0.353"
Duration @ 0.50 lift, 207 degrees
Duration @ 0.350 lift, 20 degrees

Exh Cam
Max Lift 0.307"
Duration @ 0.50 lift 203 degrees
Duration @ 0.300 lift 30 degrees

Intake cam lift increased from 7.9mm to 9.0 mm and duration increased 4 degrees to 240 degrees (total degrees)
Exhaust cam lift increased from 7.4mm to 7.8mm and duration increased 16 degrees to 240 degrees (total degrees)"

Also it sounded just like stock. No difference at all between stock sound and the upgraded cams. Also it requires special tools to install the cams and takes 4-6 hours labor to install them properly. I'm sure others that have direct experience will reply as well. The head design completely limits the use of large lift/duration cams.

This is exactly what I was looking for, thank you.

 

[Fast64ranchero]

I run them, I also had them Profiled on a cam profiler. Stock head seems to limit them. so far no one has compared stock cams to FR cams on a ported head (that I know of)

 

[Impulsed7]

Once the money rolls in, these, plus ported (maybe mildly) head, plus stronger valvesprings, plus vargas stage 2 turbo will go on. But I won't be running as high of boost, so we'll see how low the gains are. Mainly looking to shift the power to the right more, not so much looking for huge gains.

 

[rvercitypony]

I'm sure Adam at Tune+ posted that these cams offered no real gains.

 

[Tune+]

I run them, I also had them Profiled on a cam profiler. Stock head seems to limit them. so far no one has compared stock cams to FR cams on a ported head (that I know of)

Yes I did, on MAP's car.

No changes, 4whp gain and 5wtq. That difference could easy be chalked up to variation pull to pull.

 

[Fast64ranchero]

Didn't know you had back to back with the cams on the MAP car. Still not worth the effort to change to the FR cams unless you are already in the motor for other reasons.

 

[2016Mustang]

if anyone is looking to buy them there on sale over at American muscle

http://www.americanmuscle.com/frpp-hp-camshafts-1516eco.html

 

[arghx7]

turbo DI engines don't usually have so much of a bottleneck with the cams. Since the intake and exhaust can be phased (VCT) you can't really get much benefit from the valve timing change you get from a different grind.

The constraint is the backpressure from the hotside of the turbo. The other constraint is the intake port and combustion chamber, which are designed to create a good mixture and reduce knock (high tumble) rather than flow a ton of air.

 

[KadenW23]

turbo DI engines don't usually have so much of a bottleneck with the cams. Since the intake and exhaust can be phased (VCT) you can't really get much benefit from the valve timing change you get from a different grind.

The constraint is the backpressure from the hotside of the turbo. The other constraint is the intake port and combustion chamber, which are designed to create a good mixture and reduce knock (high tumble) rather than flow a ton of air.

Ahhhh I see. this actually puts it into perspective and makes sense. Thank you!

 

[v8440]

Makes sense to me.

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