Auto rev match in manual?

[Daedalus]

I agree, my 370Z made me very lazy too. But, I am going to try to learn the skill on my GT350 before trying the auto-blip install. If I can't get it down at least we have that option to fall on if Ford Performance doesn't add it.

Oh, if you want a quick and honest performance comparison of the 2 cars?

GT350 has better brakes… way better brakes!
Power, well duh! ;)

Handling is a wash, nudge going to the GT350 because it’s more versatile.
You can really feel the road and throw the 370Z into turns with confidence at almost any speed. But what makes the 370Z a great handling car also leaves a bit to be desired in comfort for everyday driving. Then there is the awful road noise!

Driving the GT350, in normal mode, is like driving a boat compared to the 370Z. Maybe a GT350 speed boat to be more precise?
However, the GT350 magna ride suspension is great and with a flip of a switch it all changes! I do wish the sport setting was a bit stiffer. (track key?)

GT350 has much better rear visibility while the front visibility is slightly better in the 370Z.

... and the GT350 sound? Yeah, it's really that good!!

I have not had the guts to test the GT350 limits, which I won’t do until hitting the track… and which I am very much a novice. Probably wouldn’t reach the limits there either.

To note: I still have my 370Z, but I do not enjoy driving it as much since getting the GT350.

Wow thanks for the detailed comparison

Glad to hear the rear visibility is better as its a major problem in the z. too bad about forward visibility. only problem I have with that on the z is the huge side mirrors blocking my vision on turns.

I'm definitely getting a 2017+ gt350 so it will have the magnetic suspension. Good to know the handling is on par with the 370z.

Since I won't be buying a gt350 for a while I'll turn off the Rev match in the z and get used to not having it.

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[SchultzLT1]

Speaking of Trackey....does anybody have an ETA on that?

 

[icormba]

Wow thanks for the detailed comparison

Glad to hear the rear visibility is better as its a major problem in the z. too bad about forward visibility. only problem I have with that on the z is the huge side mirrors blocking my vision on turns.

Oh yeah! Those 370Z mirrors! The GT350 mirrors (on all '15-16 Mustangs) are tiny in comparison. .. and don't get me wrong, the forward visibility on the GT350 isn't bad by any means.

 

[RocketGuy3]

sullivan racing pedals, garage line spacer. stop being lazy.

in all honesty, with those mods, it is stupid easy to heel/toe.

Will those parts work on a Mustang GT? Where can I get them?

It does seem like the pedals are a bit too widely spaced from the factory to properly heel-toe...

 

[Daedalus]

Oh yeah! Those 370Z mirrors! The GT350 mirrors (on all '15-16 Mustangs) are tiny in comparison. .. and don't get me wrong, the forward visibility on the GT350 isn't bad by any means.

good to hear!

btw love that DIB w/ black stripes. very jealous of your stable. :cheers:

i probably wont keep my z when i buy the gt350. it will be sad to see her go, but a gt350 will keep me happy no doubt.

 

[Trackaholic]

I still haven't been able to give up my 350Z. It really is a great car (although not quite as great as the GT350).

As for rev matching, the factory systems use gearbox sensors in order to be foolproof with respect to which gear is being chosen. An aftermarket solution could use only software, with the assumption that you are always downshifting a single gear when brakes are applied and clutch is pushed. By programming the ratios, the appropriate throttle blip could be achieved. Of course if you dropped more than one gear, the computer wouldn't know it hadn't blipped enough until you let the clutch out. Once the clutch is out the car would know the gear based on speed and RPM.

Looks like the auto-blip isn't quite that sophisticated, as it seems to blip for the same adjustable duration for every shift.

Would be cool to see Ford add a software based solution that was available through the track-apps menu. I think having it in that portion of the information center would mean that it could be less robust that a fully sensorized solution, but better than the auto-blip since the actual blips would vary based on the gear ratio spread. Since it is in the track apps it would be OK to make assumptions about how the downshifts are occurring. Without sensors you probably wouldn't want to run it on the street, since the shifting patterns can be much more random depending on traffic (which is why I think Ford would have a tough time rolling out the feature in a widespread manner).

As far as heel-toe goes, I actually find the car very easy to heel-toe on the street (because I am braking with far less pressure and can place my foot more comfortably on the edge of the brake pedal). On the track however, it is nearly impossible for me to heel-toe with any sort of effectiveness. I keep meaning to look into those wider pedal offerings, but haven't pulled the trigger just yet.

-T

 

[Rogue]

Couldn't heel/toe this car at the track like I do my Boss 302 - problem solved... http://auto-blip.com/index.php?route=common/home

 

[mmm635]

The Auto-Blip is rev-matching - it blips the throttle to match the revs just like oem systems from Porsche, GM, and Nissan. That said, this unit allows you to adjust the amount of blip and the duration which can suit different drivers. It only took two hours to install and can easily be removed in 10 minutes.

The system works great and I will be testing it out at Road Atlanta this weekend. Heel and toe is easy in my P-cars, but the Mustang is a little more difficult due to pedal arrangement. My ankle is turning over more than I would like.

 

[mmm635]

I still haven't been able to give up my 350Z. It really is a great car (although not quite as great as the GT350).

As for rev matching, the factory systems use gearbox sensors in order to be foolproof with respect to which gear is being chosen. An aftermarket solution could use only software, with the assumption that you are always downshifting a single gear when brakes are applied and clutch is pushed. By programming the ratios, the appropriate throttle blip could be achieved. Of course if you dropped more than one gear, the computer wouldn't know it hadn't blipped enough until you let the clutch out. Once the clutch is out the car would know the gear based on speed and RPM.

Looks like the auto-blip isn't quite that sophisticated, as it seems to blip for the same adjustable duration for every shift.

Would be cool to see Ford add a software based solution that was available through the track-apps menu. I think having it in that portion of the information center would mean that it could be less robust that a fully sensorized solution, but better than the auto-blip since the actual blips would vary based on the gear ratio spread. Since it is in the track apps it would be OK to make assumptions about how the downshifts are occurring. Without sensors you probably wouldn't want to run it on the street, since the shifting patterns can be much more random depending on traffic (which is why I think Ford would have a tough time rolling out the feature in a widespread manner).

As far as heel-toe goes, I actually find the car very easy to heel-toe on the street (because I am braking with far less pressure and can place my foot more comfortably on the edge of the brake pedal). On the track however, it is nearly impossible for me to heel-toe with any sort of effectiveness. I keep meaning to look into those wider pedal offerings, but haven't pulled the trigger just yet.

-T

When I am approaching a stoplight, I end up clutching into neutral first to avoid the blip. However, this unit will only be used for the track and not the street. It is not as refined as a factory system for sure.

That said...the unit works pretty good during testing on the street and this weekend should reveal the worthiness on the track! I would also like to add that rarely do I go down two gears in succession with such a high revving motor so I don't think hunting for the gear will make much of a difference. My AIM software has a section for gear selection but it does not show up on my screen via the data logger. Hopefully, they will figure out whether or not it is not provided by Ford and default over to the "calculated" gear.

 

[10splaya22]

When I am approaching a stoplight, I end up clutching into neutral first to avoid the blip. However, this unit will only be used for the track and not the street. It is not as refined as a factory system for sure.

That said...the unit works pretty good during testing on the street and this weekend should reveal the worthiness on the track! I would also like to add that rarely do I go down two gears in succession with such a high revving motor so I don't think hunting for the gear will make much of a difference. My AIM software has a section for gear selection but it does not show up on my screen via the data logger. Hopefully, they will figure out whether or not it is not provided by Ford and default over to the "calculated" gear.

Thats the issue with the GT350. It doesn't have a gear position sensor to tell the car what gear the car is in regardless if the clutch is in or out. Its easy for the car to know the gear when the clutch is out based on rpm/wheel speed but it needs the gearbox sensor to be OEM-like in operation and work with enough speed and precision.

 

[Zitrosounds]

I agree, my 370Z made me very lazy too. But, I am going to try to learn the skill on my GT350 before trying the auto-blip install. If I can't get it down at least we have that option to fall on if Ford Performance doesn't add it.

Oh, if you want a quick and honest performance comparison of the 2 cars?

GT350 has better brakes… way better brakes!
Power, well duh! ;)

Handling is a wash, nudge going to the GT350 because it’s more versatile.
You can really feel the road and throw the 370Z into turns with confidence at almost any speed. But what makes the 370Z a great handling car also leaves a bit to be desired in comfort for everyday driving. Then there is the awful road noise!

Driving the GT350, in normal mode, is like driving a boat compared to the 370Z. Maybe a GT350 speed boat to be more precise?
However, the GT350 magna ride suspension is great and with a flip of a switch it all changes! I do wish the sport setting was a bit stiffer. (track key?)

GT350 has much better rear visibility while the front visibility is slightly better in the 370Z.

... and the GT350 sound? Yeah, it's really that good!!

I have not had the guts to test the GT350 limits, which I won’t do until hitting the track… and which I am very much a novice. Probably wouldn’t reach the limits there either.

To note: I still have my 370Z, but I do not enjoy driving it as much since getting the GT350.

You will never notice the track mode suspension capabilities on the road. You will definitely feel how good it is on the track.

 

[Zitrosounds]

The Auto-Blip is rev-matching - it blips the throttle to match the revs just like oem systems from Porsche, GM, and Nissan. That said, this unit allows you to adjust the amount of blip and the duration which can suit different drivers. It only took two hours to install and can easily be removed in 10 minutes.

The system works great and I will be testing it out at Road Atlanta this weekend. Heel and toe is easy in my P-cars, but the Mustang is a little more difficult due to pedal arrangement. My ankle is turning over more than I would like.

Pedal placement is like foot placement, it all varies. It really depends on the style you use. What I mean is, I regularly use my heel for brake and and my toe for throttle. Sometimes I do use my heel for the throttle and toe for bakes but seldom. In the 350 and all mustangs I have owned I rev matched this way. I agree, those using the traditional foot placement for rev matching in a Mustang or 350, it is rather cumbersome. Foot size also factors.

 

[84venom]

just added Autoblip, so freaking cool!!!!!

 

[Zitrosounds]

just added Autoblip, so freaking cool!!!!!

please elaborate!

Thanks!

 

[84venom]

please elaborate!

Thanks!

I just put one in mine. very very cool! Quite a bit of adjustability. The only issue i see is with the 3-2 downshift. It naturally takes a fraction longer to make that downshift compared to say a 4-3, so the timing is a bit off. Otherwise a great upgrade!!!

You can keep it off for street driving, so no issue there....

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