Who designed the synchros on this gearbox?!

[TunedN]

So the MT82 in the EB and GT are NOT the same, contrary to popular belief. Is the GT version less notchy than the EB?

I absolutely hate this transmission. IDK how I got so excited on the test drive I didn't realize how poorly it shifts. I'm seriously considering getting rid of the car over this poor design.

I have a bad left knee from a sports injury being exacerbated by the clutch on my old GTO, so the Steeda spring is out of the question. Still, applying more force doesn't line up the gears, so that's not an actual fix anyway.

Some people have said they like the feel of the gears clunking into place. To me, that's time I'm losing acceleration, which defeats the point of a sports car. I can't stand it. I want the thing to slip straight into whatever gear whenever I need it. I've tried shifting at the RPMs recommended by Ford for fuel economy, as well as shifting at optimal shift points (based on gearing and factory torque curve). Neither one is smooth, so I can't find anywhere logical or consistent for this thing to shift.

Are there any other MANUAL transmissions which can bolt to the EB or GT? Are there any aftermarket synchros or other guts to make this thing useful for a track day and not a car show? Any other recommendations which fix the issue and don't simply apply more leverage to the still misaligned gears?

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[kluke15]

sloppy shift linkage. can try shifter bushings or new shifter seems to work a lot better for most folks. i personally went mgw and i havent missed a shift since.

 

[I Bleed Ford Blue]

Try an aftermarket shifter and/or a shifter support bracket or a combo unit like the MGW

 

[Silver Bullitt]

You might want to consider expanding your poll to include MT82-D4 on '18+ models so you don't get any crossover. My '18 shifts fine and I'm coming from 13 years in a Tremec.

 

[BmacIL]

Aftermarket shifter and BG Syncroshift II solves it pretty much. Any high RPM lockouts remaining are eliminated with a slight clutch upgrade.

 

[Erratikmind]

My 2020 shifts smoothly without any issues so far.

 

[blackyote_317]

I recently did the Steeda base bushing and transmission mount insert. I also added a weighted shift knob. I used to have to work around the notchy shifts but now it is smooth as butter. All the other components including clutch are 100% stock. The steeda items increase NVH but I think the weighted knob reduces the impact somewhat. I don't find it annoying at all.

 

[BlueThunder]

Weight knob like a Raceseng makes a big difference on the stock shifter as a cheap mod. Going to an MGW (for me) was a staggering difference in feel. It's like, as somebody here said (sorry I forget who) it was like going from a stick-in-the-mud to a bolt-action rifle. I tried BG shift fluid too and...small difference I think (though I trust it way more than whatever monkey piss Ford puts in)

 

[Ecoboosted]

I hear ya. I had a 15’ GT and it was notchy as hell. Did the Steeda spring, MGW shifter, BG Syncro shift fluid and even put a stainless steel clutch line and it still sucked. Almost put a Magnum transmission in but lost interest in the car.

I lived in Florida so the car being cold wasn’t an issue. It was too aggravating to drive. Ended up trading the car. When I came back to a Mustang I got the A10 and couldn’t be happier. I love manual transmissions but couldn’t take a chance on another MT82.

 

[TunedN]

You might want to consider expanding your poll to include MT82-D4 on '18+ models so you don't get any crossover. My '18 shifts fine and I'm coming from 13 years in a Tremec.

Great suggestion. Thanks for enlightening me; I wasn't aware there's a new version. Too bad they EB and GT use different housings, or I could consider a swap. IDK why they call them both MT82. They're completely different.

Hopefully anyone who already voted can modify their choice if applicable. Thanks.

 

[FreePenguin]

Notchy if cold or cold weather : winter

But warm/summer it’s 100% notchless. But I have hybrid Barton 3 body mount

 

[Norm Peterson]

Some people have said they like the feel of the gears clunking into place. To me, that's time I'm losing acceleration, which defeats the point of a sports car.

You may be confusing "sports car driving" with "muscle car/dragstrip driving". Sports car driving does not require fast or harsh shifting, nor is it as concerned with occasionally losing fractions of a second of acceleration. If anything, sports car shifting is intentionally somewhat slower and more deliberate (up to the point where you're running time trials or actually racing wheel-to-wheel, anyway).

Weighted shift knobs can help, as the additional inertia tends to slow your hand motion down a tad while providing more momentum as the lever reaches points where the shift might be getting a bit notchy as the next gear's synchro goes to work.

A LONGER shift throw also tends to reduce notchiness, as well as lowering the amount of effort that you need to use. I know you're thinking that a short-throw shifter is the hot tip, but for sports cars that's only true with gearboxes that are smaller and much lighter duty than for what 5 liter engines putting out well over 400+ ft*lbs of torque require. I'm not excusing the MT82 completely here, just that it's never going to have as light of a touch as the shifter for a transmission that only has to handle half (or less) the power and torque that the Coyote puts out

Just do your track day shifting like you were pacing yourself through a 24 hour endurance event instead of like a lot of mini drag races separated by corners that you have to downshift for. Take your time, feel when the revs inside the transmission are about to match instead of just cramming the lever into the next gear.


Norm

 

[bschoon55]

My 2018 GT with PP1 does not shift good at all. It's the MT-82 and it's sloppy as hell. I can either drive the car sort of hard, maybe 60-70% and shift smooth.... but if I go for it... we're either grinding gears or sometimes even getting locked out of gear. Not sure what to do from here. I bought it used with 7,000 miles on it.

I'm definitely not the most experienced manual driver around, but I think I'm decent. I have a 2019 Fiesta ST that I can powershift the hell out of and rev-match on my own all day long and it's perfect.... I have never had any transmission issues or crazy moments with the FiST, it's just been perfect since day 1... so I know I can drive a manual hard on that car and it's so good.

I can drive this GT very smoothly, but not if I'm really going for it. The MT-82 in my car just can't take any force at all. Way too inconsistent. I will say I have also had a lot more success lately just running the car constantly in drag strip mode, it seems to take hard/fast shifts way more accurately. Anyone have any ideas?

 

[Silver Bullitt]

I don't think drive modes are going to make any difference on shifting with an M6. I guess I just got a decent one. I'm at almost 13K, bone stock, and I can shift quickly all the way to 7500 rpm. I've not experienced a single lockout of any gear so far. It takes whatever I give it. I had a Tremec in my GTO with an LS7 clutch and the MT82-D4 shifts just as good. One thing I always do is disable TC/ESC even if I'm just running to the store. The car just feels really neutered to me if you leave them on. I also prefer Sport mode for active exhaust note and a little better throttle response.

 

[scotty]

Are there any other MANUAL transmissions which can bolt to the EB or GT? Are there any aftermarket synchros or other guts to make this thing useful for a track day and not a car show? Any other recommendations which fix the issue and don't simply apply more leverage to the still misaligned gears?

Swap in a Tremec ($$$$) or get an aftermarket shifter that is trans mounted, not body - like the MGW. The main problem is the shift linkage, not the trans. Mine is notchy as hell - still running stock shifter ... but I've gotten used to it over the years.

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