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No Hate. Just finally in a situation where adding an EV for around town is appealing.

Didn't take long to figure out that Tesla is way ahead of the rest. But which model?

Acceleration was a major factor, so was 90% certain I would order an S Plaid if I liked everything else about the Model S. But I was annoyed that Tesla was very obviously marking Ss up a lot more than the other models. An example was optional paint colors were double what the same colors were on other models.

So I scheduled a test drive of an S Long Range since that's the only S the Tesla "store" had. But would make sure the rest of the car met our needs. I knew the Long Range was a 3.3 sec 0-60 car instead of 1.9 for the Plaid.

Percentage wise 1.9 is a massive improvement over 3.3. But that 3.3 in the S Long Range felt a lot faster than I expected and felt faster than past bikes that hit 60 quicker than that. And felt much quicker than the 2016 GT. So, back to the drawing board.

Found out there is a Performance version of the Model 3 and it matches the 3.3 second 0-60 of the S Long Range. So, a much better bang for the buck if a 3.3 second 0-60 was acceptable. Plus, a 3 would fit in the garage without moving cabinets I had on the back wall. But still need to find out why the 3 matches the S long range to 60 but falls off a lot by a 1/4 mile and whether I cared. Plus, it appears the 3 still qualifies for a $7,500 tax credit.

While mulling all that, Tesla drops the price of the Ss a massive amount and now charges less or nothing for options.

And Tesla just released a new model 3 but not in the US yet and no date or specs for a Performance version but with rumors of a Plaid version.

Have not test drove a model 3 yet. I know I'd prefer the stalks on the current 3. I absolutely HATED the turn signal touch buttons on the S. Even after 45 minutes driving it, I had to look at the wheel to see where to press. No tactile indications of where they are. The only other thing I did not like about the S was road noise on big seams on the road. On the other hand it has adaptive dampers which the current model 3 does not have. But on the 3rd hand, roads here are good enough I passed on adaptive dampers on the ATS I ordered in 2013 and didn't care they weren't available on my 2016 GT. And on a 4th hand, Model 3s have NO factory display in front of the driver. Only thing I believe I would want in front of me is a speedometer. BUT there are tons of plug and play 3rd party displays for cheap including ones exactly like on the Model S.

I guess I'm too impatient at 74 YO to wait for a Performance/Plaid version of the revised model 3.

So down to a current S Plaid or a current 3 Performance. I've never been price conscience but extremely bang for the buck conscious, hence the indecision. I prefer the smaller model 3 size with no kids and no backseat passengers I care enough about to want the extra size and bulk, but does a 1.9 0-60 make the plus size worth tolerating? It doesn't help to read reviews from owners who said it got old real "fast" and wished they'd went with a Long Range. I'm pretty sure the 1.9 mode is not a ready at any moment thing anyway. Need to find out Plaid 0-60 when just mashing the go-pedal.
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I’ve never bought anything based on 0-60 but I get it. From a purely asthetics point of view the S is much better looking then the 3 in my opinion. Have a good friend with a Plaid. He really likes it. EV’s have there place and work for a lot of people. That said we were in southern Colorado a few weeks back and came across a guy up on the trails in a Rivian pickup. He had a prestige plate with some kind of dig towards ice motors, dont recall it. He was so proud of himself amongst the utv’s and jeeps. Low and behold he had a gennie in the bed. He got his fair share of …. for that. Lol
 
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I’ve never bought anything based on 0-60 but I get it. From a purely asthetics point of view the S is much better looking then the 3 in my opinion. Have a good friend with a Plaid. He really likes it. EV’s have there place and work for a lot of people. That said we were in southern Colorado a few weeks back and came across a guy up on the trails in a Rivian pickup. He had a prestige plate with some kind of dig towards ice motors, dont recall it. He was so proud of himself amongst the utv’s and jeeps. Low and behold he had a gennie in the bed. He got his fair share of …. for that. Lol
I am a bit worried about the Tesla forums. My reasons for buying will be night and day to the tree huggers, climate change proselytizers, etc..

Forums might be a lot like living in the Smug Alert episode of South Park.

I like the acceleration, the silence and the tech. Still have the S550 and others when in the mood.
 

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My buddy isn’t one of those guys either. He just likes the car for what it is, he also has quite a few nice cars like we do as well. I think you’re being pretty nice about what probably goes on in the tesla forum as well. Lol.
 
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My buddy isn’t one of those guys either. He just likes the car for what it is, he also has quite a few nice cars like we do as well. I think you’re being pretty nice about what probably goes on in the tesla forum as well. Lol.
Did he ever mention what the Plaid 0-60 is without all the preparation required for the 1.9? In other words, just sitting at a light and deciding to send it. The 1.9 apparently requires lowering the front, pre-cooling the batteries, etc..
 

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The original 2 seater coupe. Park it outside so 4 hefty brits can pick it up, throw it on a flatbed and kidnap it and retrofit the original 4 banger to the Lotus and double it's value overnight

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The garage I take my cars to when I want something done quickly has a lot of exotics and a few Tesla models. I was interested in something to replace my wife's 16 year old Saturn Vue, so I test drove a used Tesla model 3 Performance. Very impressive performance and size and weight is about the same as my Mustang GT convertible was. But, wife refuses to part with her Saturn, so that's the end of that idea.
 

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Unfortunately that did not come up.

Did he ever mention what the Plaid 0-60 is without all the preparation required for the 1.9? In other words, just sitting at a light and deciding to send it. The 1.9 apparently requires lowering the front, pre-cooling the batteries, etc..
 

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What I would need to know is how are the brakes? I mean it is cool that the lesser dos 0-60 in 3.3 and theother can do 1.9, but the rest of the drivers are not used to a vehicle that can move that quick and might not judge where you'll be and when, I'd want to know that the brakes can throw out an anchor if needed because the other driver thought he/she had room, time before you got there.
 

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What I would need to know is how are the brakes? I mean it is cool that the lesser dos 0-60 in 3.3 and theother can do 1.9, but the rest of the drivers are not used to a vehicle that can move that quick and might not judge where you'll be and when, I'd want to know that the brakes can throw out an anchor if needed because the other driver thought he/she had room, time before you got there.
Regenerative braking reduces stopping distance.
 

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What I would need to know is how are the brakes? I mean it is cool that the lesser dos 0-60 in 3.3 and theother can do 1.9, but the rest of the drivers are not used to a vehicle that can move that quick and might not judge where you'll be and when, I'd want to know that the brakes can throw out an anchor if needed because the other driver thought he/she had room, time before you got there.
First of all, we rode 2.x second bikes which were not only quicker but even harder to see coming. Was never a problem. The secret trick is DON'T cause a high closing rate.

We will only be using a Model 3 3.1 second or Model S Plaid 2.0 second when there are no other vehicles in front in any lane.
 

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First of all, we rode 2.x second bikes which were not only quicker but even harder to see coming. Was never a problem. The secret trick is DON'T cause a high closing rate.

We will only be using a Model 3 3.1 second or Model S Plaid 2.0 second when there are no other vehicles in front in any lane.
I ve seen a bunch of you tube video of wrecks from the other drivers not expecting the car to move that fast. A vette looks like it and move fast. A tesla to non car people doesn't. Unless you have a crystal ball to know what others are thinking and will do. Maybe you do. I don't.
This has been a problem when I Mat the go pedal in my ev. Other drivers don't expect it to move that quick and pull out because 99 % of eggs on wheels can't move that fast .
 

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Doesn't matter if the tires will not allow it and the abs is unlocking wheels that lost traction.
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