Joelang33
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I just can't see any LED causing an over-voltage. Voltage is voltage, it should not change. Using Ohms law, if resistance drops, current will rise. Voltage stays the same. So, that's why some type of resistance is built into high quality LEDs. This ensures current stays the same. Now, would a supposed "over-voltage" cause a short? Uh.... no. Over-current.... possibly yes. I can use a 16 gauge wire for 12v, 24v, 120v AC.... doesn't matter. Too much current is what causes heat and can burn things up. With all this said, they fed you full of crap and flagged you within their network. That's total BS! Plus, if they followed the rules correctly, they would have to prove the LEDs caused the issue. That would mean they would have to recreate this "over-voltage". I'd like to see that lol. To me, it simply sounds like they don't know what caused it and came up with an excuse so they wouldn't have to perform the warranty repair. They make no money on warranty repairs and some dealers try everything they can to avoid them.*sigh*
Last year, I had the evaporator core replaced at Ford of Orange under warranty (which has been common for 15-16 models). After I got the car back, someone pointed out to me that my front marker lights would light up when I braked. I took it back to Ford of Orange and after two weeks, they came back and said the BCM was fried and that my LED turn signals caused "an over-voltage scenario that shorted the BCM". The Service Manager refused to talk to me, and said she was going to "talk to the other dealers in the area" to "make sure they know" that I "caused the problem" and that she "sees Mustangs come in all the time with this exact problem".
It took me $590 to get car back as-is, including the rental car, and in February I took it to Galpin Ford for a second opinion. Unfortunately Ford of Orange's notes were in the system, and Ford corporate continued to deny the warranty. It cost another $1200 to get it fixed.
Suffice to say, nobody I've talked to so far or have read online has had LED turn signals "fry" the BCM... certainly not to the degree where a dealer would see it "all the time". It's worth noting, though it's only fodder for conspiracy theorists, that had the BCM been fixed under warranty, I would have surpassed the required number of cumulative days in warranty repair to qualify for the California lemon law. based on all the other problems I've had since I bought the car. Now I'm past the 18-month limit and stuck with the car.
The Toyota FRS and Subaru BRZ are essentially the same car, both companies developed it. There are more subtle trim differences in trim but the main difference is the FRS is rwd and the BRZ is awd. Those things are super fun to drive, they're like big go carts.Also, thought I'd share this. :lol: