VIN # !!!

[Mustangchief]

What a perfect way to commemorate the 50 years of Mustang with, in my opinion, the best ever mustang, Retiring from the Military at a young age of 40, 22 happens to be a good luck number Coincidentally My Unit was also NMCB 22 ... Anyways this will be my first, Figured I would share and thank your supportive family for me!

Congrats on your 22 years and THANKS to you and your family for being part of the team. I think you will really enjoy your Mustang and don't forget to get out to Mustang events. The only Mustang owners I ever met who were jerks, were the guys who put their cars in a museum. Texas has some really nice wide open spaces to let her run. I know as military members we are taught to hurry up and wait, but it never makes it easy.

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[Seabee1973]

Congrats on your 22 years and THANKS to you and your family for being part of the team. I think you will really enjoy your Mustang and don't forget to get out to Mustang events. The only Mustang owners I ever met who were jerks, were the guys who put their cars in a museum. Texas has some really nice wide open spaces to let her run. I know as military members we are taught to hurry up and wait, but it never makes it easy.

yeah.. I am to try permitting, seems like after 10 years my career hurried... now I have to wait to see my retirement hopefully before i am 59 so I can enjoy it... maybe the rumors of the 30 year anniversary payout materializes after the feb introduction of the proposed retirement... :-)

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[Mustangchief]

P.S. you're daughter deserves a nice x-mas gift this year!

She'll definitely get one:amen:

 

[Seabee1973]

She'll definitely get one:amen:

you are getting a Mustang for herself like in the commercial? [emoji2]

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[Mustangchief]

you are getting a Mustang for herself like in the commercial? [emoji2]

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LOL, she is a Prius person with a cat...I paid off her College Bills and Wedding (several new GT's worth) It will more likely be a camera lens for her Photography business. I did tell her and my Son I'm adding the LE to her portion of my Will.

 

[Seabee1973]

LOL, she is a Prius person with a cat...I paid off her College Bills and Wedding (several new GT's worth) It will more likely be a camera lens for her Photography business. I did tell her and my Son I'm adding the LE to her portion of my Will.

that is cool[emoji2]

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[Seabee1973]

I've been toying around with order numbers andseeing other people orders from the same dealership... pretty cool... appears that there is only one person ahead of me that ordered a new mustang on the 20th yet they also don't have a vin#

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[NVPony]

I've been toying around with order numbers andseeing other people orders from the same dealership... pretty cool... appears that there is only one person ahead of me that ordered a new mustang on the 20th yet they also don't have a vin#

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I don't think there is a whole lot of rhyme or reason to their system. Mostly allocation. I wonder if someone with some inside knowledge might chime in.

We'll know a bit more when the build dates start popping up.

 

[Mustangchief]

I don't think there is a whole lot of rhyme or reason to their system. Mostly allocation. I wonder if someone with some inside knowledge might chime in.

We'll know a bit more when the build dates start popping up.

I'll start by saying I don't work at Ford, but I have gone to the same classes with Ford production employees. They use industry standard practices tweeked to what works for them.

First...it's about the bottom line. Nothing else!

Ford does not wake up and say "Let's please customer X today because he is the reason we exist" (They will say other wise, but Fields wakes up and says shareholders are why we exist) Customers are very important, but obviously since there are so many manufacturers some will go toward a product that satisfies them. PA and Customer Service are there to keep and gain customers.

Ford produces a product for the mass market, lets say Mustang, then a specialty Market "SVT GT500" and then the Niche Market "CJ" The smaller the market the higher the cost (which effects bottom line)

Focus back on the mass market now. There are 8 basic Mustang models, plus the future SVT not on the configure page. Each of those have a host of options to fit the majority of customer needs. (sure, customers will want more or less, but that is why Ford Racing and other aftermarkets exist) There are pointy headed meetings where they speak six sigma, lean, balanced scorecard and other production/analysis terms that will give you a headache. The analyst figure out the best efficiency for the production line based on supplier guarantees. Ford gives a best guess (forecast) based off of the market research (you know the car show booths, what people are searching/building at the B&P site, forums like this, past sales) to suppliers, but will eventually nail down initial orders based on a suppliers lead requirements. Folks like Bembro, Recaro and other name brand suppliers have accounts other than ford. These products need to show up a week prior or earlier to use for QC inspections (last thing you want to do is shut down a line because Recaro sent you Chevy mount type seats). On some bigger orders, the manufacturer will have a rep at a production facility to do the inspections before shipping occurs. So, with all of this going on not every part to build a customers car will be on site (OK, let me clarify, they will have a few of every part available for defects or damages) If the part is a low volume commodity it may not be there and may take a while to get(backorders). When they start up the line, those analysts have already figured out what is going to be available.

Scheduling (or S&A=scheduling and analysis) This is where allocation come in. The "Glass House" schedulers send out an availability sheet for each production week to the regional schedulers, it will list all of Ford cars and options being built in say week 35 and what their allocations are. It will have the number of cars and commodities(options) available. The region distributes this to local dealers and they use their priority system to order cars. If 100 cars with recaros are being built in region A and there are 101 local dealers, 1 dealer will not get one unless one of the 100 other dealers doesn't want one. These are for dealer stock or fleet. I'm not into Ford production, so I can't comment on how they prioritize, but I'm sure it works on a who sells the most, as that is a major component of "the bottom line". On a new product, cars will trickle out to the big dealers in week one and the smaller guys in week two.

Your Customer Order. Ok, so where does your customer order fit in. Well, when you made the order, and got the DORA back, Ford at the "Glass House" level knows what you want. If the West Coast has a lot of people pre ordering recaros, they may get a larger percent of those allocations. Individual orders are not usually scheduled above the regional level. Now, your order is noted at the big level, because it is a commodity they have to fill, they may send allocations to the region for this purpose. Find out who the regional scheduler is and buy him a beer and hopefully he'll tell you. I don't know Fords micro process very well, we didn't have a lot of time in class to talk about each others processes. Some came up during questions, but nothing at this level. We were focused on Production, Quality, Management (PQM) at the Plant level.

So, this is a long, but by industry standards (brief) answer to your question. There is a rhyme and reason for everything and it is measured and tracked down to the last washer. The unfortunate part is, we are just a tiny speck in the bottom line. Customer service is there to help along the way, but even they have limited access to some areas (vehicle figures for example). All will come in due time. Production line retool starts Monday:clap2: We should see a lot more information now that production is shifting towards MY15 on the Mustang line.

 

[NVPony]

Wow, that is a level of insight I could not have asked for.

Thank you.

I suppose if I were an ant and I saw a skyscraper being built I would think it was magic.

I'll just stick with that and think they are made with magic, feels better that way.

 

[StangBANG]

Thank you for all that great info chief! Good stuff

 

[Mustangchief]

I'll caveat what I said with this. It has been two years since my direct involvement in PQM, processes change all of the time. The exact micro process currently used is a guarded secret, hence your lack of information. One of the other biggies that effects "bottom line" is competition. Only if your head has been in the ground the past decade would you not know who the competitors are for the Mustang segment. The big guys get to decide when information is public. The longer they hold Wt and HP, the less time MOPAR and GM have to counter or set a target. Same rules apply for production. If Ford can crank out 650 stock Mustangs and 100 Customer Order Mustangs a day and GM can only get out 80% of that, then they have to figure how Ford does it. This is why you will never know some things unless it is your job. It goes both ways too.

All I know is I've had a GT from each decade and they continue to get better each decade (Ok, the 69/70's were the last great cars for a number of years) We are now driving Mustangs cable of hitting NASCAR speeds on the track, then stopping for beer and pretzels at WalMart on the way home in the same car. You can't get much better than that! At some point we'll hit a wall where our infrastructure can't handle the capability and we'll have to settle for the car doing things better, and wait for roads and tracks to catch up.

 

[Tony Alonso]

Scheduling (or S&A=scheduling and analysis) This is where allocation come in. The "Glass House" schedulers send out an availability sheet for each production week to the regional schedulers, it will list all of Ford cars and options being built in say week 35 and what their allocations are. It will have the number of cars and commodities(options) available. The region distributes this to local dealers and they use their priority system to order cars. If 100 cars with recaros are being built in region A and there are 101 local dealers, 1 dealer will not get one unless one of the 100 other dealers doesn't want one. These are for dealer stock or fleet. I'm not into Ford production, so I can't comment on how they prioritize, but I'm sure it works on a who sells the most, as that is a major component of "the bottom line". On a new product, cars will trickle out to the big dealers in week one and the smaller guys in week two.

Your Customer Order. Ok, so where does your customer order fit in. Well, when you made the order, and got the DORA back, Ford at the "Glass House" level knows what you want. If the West Coast has a lot of people pre ordering recaros, they may get a larger percent of those allocations. Individual orders are not usually scheduled above the regional level. Now, your order is noted at the big level, because it is a commodity they have to fill, they may send allocations to the region for this purpose. Find out who the regional scheduler is and buy him a beer and hopefully he'll tell you. I don't know Fords micro process very well, we didn't have a lot of time in class to talk about each others processes. Some came up during questions, but nothing at this level. We were focused on Production, Quality, Management (PQM) at the Plant level.

Thanks for your insights! When the 2005s were first being readied for production, there were some Ford employess who posted to some forum (BlueOvalNews, perhaps) that had visibility to the weekly commodity reports. I followed those out of curiosity to see what was going to be built. In fact, I remember the MyColor option was a constrained commodity early on, and it was a bummer for those people who couldn't wait for the color-changing IP display.

After that scenario, I then tended to ask the salesperson how their allocation situation looked to get some idea of what they were getting and how much they were getting. Clearly, I could only get bits and pieces of the secret sauce, but it did become easier to see when certain dealerships were telling their customer to hold on unduly, when they truly could not get what they were promising.

All of this to say that I find fins this stuff fascinating academically (I work with logistics and production scheduling people where I work), however, I am jumping up and down waiting for a VIN and build date right now

Thanks again!

 

[GT]

Has anyone with a "customer" order received a VIN yet?

 

[stangt911]

Got an email from my dealer today with the build date and VIN and Yes!!! finally the VIN is on the tracking site. The build date that my dealer gave me was September 8. I'm trying to find out how does the dealer know that since is not on cotusb web site yet. So im hoping for late September early October delivery

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