Tune on a stock 5.0

[EXP Jawa]

I would expect powertrain/drivetrain losses to go down, not up. There have been substantial improvements made over the last few years in lubes and in bearing technology that have significantly reduced friction in the transmissions and axles of new vehicles. The push for improving fuel economy is impacting every segment of the industry - I've seen it first hand, and I expect that the old assumptions of drivetrain loss are going to have to be rethought.

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[DivineStrike]

You statement is only true because you use "can"..

...and you use terms like "true power".. ?

We know things can happen.. Unlikely that it is slower. TQ to weight is better, thus better..

I agree unlikely that it is slower. But seriously nitpicking when you know i'm referring to how much power it's putting to the ground? that is what I mean by "true power" seriously dude we all know power to the ground is what matters and not bhp and how that power to the ground compares to it's weight. And of course my statement works because I use the word can. Why would I be so ignorant as to assume I know it's going to increase drivetrain loss. None of us know how this IRS is going to effect power to the ground. The only word one can use to accurately depict this is the word "can"

Also, they may have done some fancy stuff to the irs to keep loss at a minimum but from some of the things i've seen they've really beefed up components (which is a good thing imo) but having heavier beefier components makes getting power to the ground a little harder. Just look at the difference in that pinion gear http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php/super-8-8-2536.html I can only hope the rest of the components are as beefed up.

EXPJawa, I hope that is the case.

 

[Papaya]

We in Germany have 95 octane in Regular/ 97 octane mid grade / 100 octane in Premium gas/ 102 octane in V-power from Shell Germany. FYI.

 

[Grimace427]

We in Germany have 95 octane in Regular/ 97 octane mid grade / 100 octane in Premium gas/ 102 octane in V-power from Shell Germany. FYI.

You also have a different method of rating octane(MON vs RON). Your 98 is roughly equivelant to our 93 octane.

 

[TorkN8R]

I have a few question for all you extremely knowledgeable Mustang enthusiasts that I was hoping to get answered. In particular Mr. Grimace427 who I've come to respect in terms of his automotive knowledge from his posts on this forum.

The 2015 Mustang GT with Performance Package states that it comes with unique Stability Control, EPAS and ABS tuning. I understand that that is for the different traction, steering and braking modes of the vehicle.

1.Correct?

2. Does that mean the tuning is a different performance tune in the PCM then what is in say... the standard GT without PP?

3. If I was to install a performance tune from one of the many recognized tuners out there, would those perimeters be tuned the same (left alone) or would that be tweaked as well?

4. If I installed a Ford Racing Whipple S/C and say... a VMP tune from Justin, same question as #3 ?

I do appreciate all the help that you guy's offer. Thanks in advance.

 

[Grimace427]

The top tuners like VMP will be spending a lot of time testing their tunes making sure everything is perfect. You won't be able to get custom tuning done the day the car goes on sale. Also remember this unique AdvanceTrac tuning has been available in the Mustang since 2011 so the differences in software won't be any kind of surprise to the tuners.

Also remember it will be up to tuning hardware companies like SCT, Diablo, and Hypermotive to crack the PCM first before tuners can do anything with them.

 

[Bahndvr]

We in Germany have 95 octane in Regular/ 97 octane mid grade / 100 octane in Premium gas/ 102 octane in V-power from Shell Germany. FYI.

There have been a lot of blown engines in Germany from canned tunes from America. An independent study I found some time ago said that the Shell V100 was RON 101.1 & MON 87.8.
Here is a summarized comparison:
_US______Germany____________
86 AKI = 91 RON Regular
87 AKI = 92 RON Regular
88 AKI = 93 RON
89 AKI = 94 RON European Premium
90 AKI = 95 RON European Premium/Super at some sites
91 AKI = 96 RON European Super
92 AKI = 97 RON European Super
93 AKI = 98 RON European Super
94 AKI = 99 RON European Super
94.45 AKI = Shell V 100 Power (Nitrogen enriched)

The US obtains its octane rating by this formula: AKI = (R+M)/2) which is sometimes called Pump Octane Number (PON).
AKI means Anti-Knock Index
R is short for Research Octane Number or also RON
M is short for Motor Octane Number or also MON

 

[Turtle]

Torque

There have been a lot of blown engines in Germany from canned tunes from America. An independent study I found some time ago said that the Shell V100 was RON 101.1 & MON 87.8.
Here is a summarized comparison:
_US______Germany____________
86 AKI = 91 RON Regular
87 AKI = 92 RON Regular
88 AKI = 93 RON
89 AKI = 94 RON European Premium
90 AKI = 95 RON European Premium/Super at some sites
91 AKI = 96 RON European Super
92 AKI = 97 RON European Super
93 AKI = 98 RON European Super
94 AKI = 99 RON European Super
94.45 AKI = Shell V 100 Power (Nitrogen enriched)

The US obtains its octane rating by this formula: AKI = (R+M)/2) which is sometimes called Pump Octane Number (PON).
AKI means Anti-Knock Index
R is short for Research Octane Number or also RON
M is short for Motor Octane Number or also MON

Forgive me if this has already been covered, but I'm fairly new here. Has anyone seen the torque curve for the 2015 GT engine? I'm not concerned with top HP as the cops in Wi keep you pretty close to the speed limits. I would, however, be interested in seat of the pants & actual torque from 2000 RPM & beyond for passing, etc. Thanks for any insight on this.

 

[scottpe]

Forgive me if this has already been covered, but I'm fairly new here. Has anyone seen the torque curve for the 2015 GT engine? I'm not concerned with top HP as the cops in Wi keep you pretty close to the speed limits. I would, however, be interested in seat of the pants & actual torque from 2000 RPM & beyond for passing, etc. Thanks for any insight on this.

No torque curves have been released as of yet. Hopefully when reviews start hitting in a couple weeks, we'll see some independent dyno tests.

I suspect there will be some improvement in low-end torque compared to the outgoing model though.

Keep in mind that 'seat of the pants' and throttle response for passing, etc. is also somewhat dependent on gearing.

 

[Reds197]

The torque tables in the tune will allow a significant performance increase as far as 0-60 and quarter mile times. The tune itself will only add about 12-15 HP. Disabling some of the built in safety allows more performance.

We couldn’t believe our eyes. How could a tune that only added 12 hp and 13 lb-ft knock off 0.6 and add 3 mph in the quarter

Read more: http://www.mustangandfords.com/how-...ve-link-gen-2/dyno-numbers.html#ixzz3CBeWjavM

 

[Asharus]

anyone gonna run E85?

 

[Reds197]

I am going to run e-85 with a supercharger.
On the 2013-14 models you could pick up 18-20 hp over stock with a tune. Stock pump is fine you just need 47 lbs injectors.

 

[Turtle]

Torque

No torque curves have been released as of yet. Hopefully when reviews start hitting in a couple weeks, we'll see some independent dyno tests.

I suspect there will be some improvement in low-end torque compared to the outgoing model though.

Keep in mind that 'seat of the pants' and throttle response for passing, etc. is also somewhat dependent on gearing.

Thanks Scottpe, I believe mine (auto tranny) should have 3.55 gears, which should be pretty responsive at highway speeds, yet not overly thirst either.

 

[foghat]

Thanks Scottpe, I believe mine (auto tranny) should have 3.55 gears, which should be pretty responsive at highway speeds, yet not overly thirst either.

The 3.55s are an optional upgrade. 3.15 (I believe) are standard.

Autos with the 3.55s have a higher overall ratio than a standard with 3.73 - so take that at what it's worth for highway mpg.

 

[Turtle]

Mileage

The 3.55s are an optional upgrade. 3.15 (I believe) are standard.

Autos with the 3.55s have a higher overall ratio than a standard with 3.73 - so take that at what its worth for highway mpg.

Thanks foghat, I believe you are right, but overall ratio, if I remember, was very close between the two. I still hope I can find the torque curve somewhere, not that I could do anything about it, but I think I read the Boss 302 really got it's power in the high rev range, but the 2015 would develop its peak somewhere sooner. Maybe I just dreamt it. Also, I think 5th & 6th are both overdrive on the auto. Just wish I'd hear when it's coming so, hopefully, I can try it before the snow flies up here (only a few weeks from now, likely).

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