Track Mode Removal - Warning from cop.....

[Prodigal]

you all pay a hefty price for year round gorgeous weather. while many of us worry about summer tires in sub 40 degfree weather or outright hibernation, you get to enjoy your car all year round, or as much as your elected overlords allow you to. sorry but i just couldnt do it. Fly over country isnt perfect by any means (tornados, etc) but its pretty much live and let live. God, guns, tint and loud exhausts.

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[2016S550]

I have no idea how loud the 5.0 is with the standard exhaust (non active exhaust). I live in a 55+ community and chose to live here because I am at the point where I want to be around people that “generally” follow the rules and respect one another’s feelings. I like kids but I guess I’ve become a codger because I enjoy not having kids outside throwing footballs, playing basketball, or playing wiffle ball in the street while I try to drive through to my house, or giving me the gas face because they had to get out of the street lol. Most will understand what I’m saying.

With that in mind I wanted the Active Exhaust because I leave early and want to be considerate of others. I use Quiet Start, especially in colder weather when I let it warm up to defrost the windows. My last neighbor before I moved auto started his Ford F250 Diesel at 5am and I got to experience his “off road use” type exhaust for about 15 minutes 5 days a week. I guess like some of you have posted, others peoples feelings are not your problem, nor was mine to him.

 

[cerbomark]

"Broken window theory".

What is the broken windows theory simplified?


Broken window theory is the concept that each problem that goes unattended in a given environment affects people's attitude toward that environment and leads to more problems

This is why law enforcement also does the little things in a healthy community. We see what happens in the opposite envirnmon t every day on the news.

Am I saying the attitude of every cop encounter is great, NOT.

 

[IPOGT]

"Broken window theory".

What is the broken windows theory simplified?


Broken window theory is the concept that each problem that goes unattended in a given environment affects people's attitude toward that environment and leads to more problems

This is why law enforcement also does the little things in a healthy community. We see what happens in the opposite envirnmon t every day on the news.

Am I saying the attitude of every cop encounter is great, NOT.

Is every person nice to deal with? PR should be a mandatory part of the job. To the good ones, it is. The best tool in LE is your mouth. It can also be your worst enemy.

 

[2morrow]

Funny, I’ve never had this problem (yet) and I drive this. But then again I have grey hair lol.

 

[SolarFlare]

California is such a shitty place lol. Sorry to hear OP

 

[Oakley]

"Broken window theory".

What is the broken windows theory simplified?


Broken window theory is the concept that each problem that goes unattended in a given environment affects people's attitude toward that environment and leads to more problems

This is why law enforcement also does the little things in a healthy community. We see what happens in the opposite envirnmon t every day on the news.

Am I saying the attitude of every cop encounter is great, NOT.

that is a misapplication of the broken window theory. bird-dogging people about stuff that the DOT and any number of other federal agencies signed off on because your state is too chickenshit to tell freeloaders to step off is exactly why california is going from a nice place to be to an absolute shithole.

furthermore everyone who complies with these unlawful ordinances is an accomplice to the tyranny at hand as well as that which follows.

 

[2016S550]

that is a misapplication of the broken window theory. bird-dogging people about stuff that the DOT and any number of other federal agencies signed off on because your state is too chickenshit to tell freeloaders to step off is exactly why california is going from a nice place to be to an absolute shithole.

furthermore everyone who complies with these unlawful ordinances is an accomplice to the tyranny at hand as well as that which follows.

Very interesting response and raised my interest. What stuff specifically did the DOT or Federal agencies sign off on and who are the freeloaders?

 

[2016S550]

Is every person nice to deal with? PR should be a mandatory part of the job. To the good ones, it is.

I’m not trying to read between any lines and I’m probably wrong, but to me it sounds like you are saying the cops get paid to listen to assholes complain about the same asshole breaking laws not written by the cops who get paid to enforce them? Shouldn’t courtesy be a two way street? I always liked the saying “people who play stupid games win stupid prizes”.

 

[Oakley]

Very interesting response and raised my interest. What stuff specifically did the DOT or Federal agencies sign off on and who are the freeloaders?

everything on an OEM vehicle has to go through all kinds of alphabet agency approval. you think they crash test for fun? the literal shape of the car exists as it does as a result of this insane level of government oversight. DOT signs off at the time of inspection.

then they get to california and some idiot cop wants to give a guy crap because of his factory exhaust, the one all those agencies said was kosher.

the freeloaders are the inhabitants of california who benefit most from these insane taxes.

oh and these are taxes, not laws. anything you can make go away with a fine and jumping through some hoops isn't a crime, its a tax.

 

[2016S550]

everything on an OEM vehicle has to go through all kinds of alphabet agency approval. you think they crash test for fun? the literal shape of the car exists as it does as a result of this insane level of government oversight. DOT signs off at the time of inspection.

then they get to california and some idiot cop wants to give a guy crap because of his factory exhaust, the one all those agencies said was kosher.

the freeloaders are the inhabitants of california who benefit most from these insane taxes.

oh and these are taxes, not laws. anything you can make go away with a fine and jumping through some hoops isn't a crime, its a tax.

100% agree that if any cop is stopping someone for a stock OEM exhaust “not in track mode I’m gathering from whatever disclaimer Ford makes you agree to when selecting it” then we have a problem. If the cop cannot determine the sound difference between a stock or a “modified-or Track Mode” exhaust then they need better hearing or a different job.

And on the 2nd point it is indeed not a crime, which is a criminal offense. It is a traffic law or rule per se that 99% of the people have no issue with. What would the roads be like without rules? I hate the rice burners and motorcycles that love to rev their engines at the red light on a nice summer day while my windows are down. Now that is based on a “reasonable” cop enforcing a law correctly.

In this instance did the OP ever state that he was not in Track Mode? I think that’s the basis that has not been established here……and for reference this is the OP’s statement so I’d say you can infer your own opinion on that as well

“Haha ok bud Ill fight that in court no problem, they cant prove what mode I was in and as long as you don't admit right?”

I’ve got no dog in the fight but would like my response or opinion to be based on facts and not speculation

 

[2016S550]

And that’s the problem, they are not social workers, baby sitters, priests, miracle workers or whatever people want them to be. As long as they are not dicks to me then I don’t think they should put up with me being a dick to them and then expect them to “overlook” whatever I was stopped for. You get what you give imo. We all have different opinions formed on our upbringings, whether we got a trophy for finishing last or a number of other factors. Respect is a two way street in my book.

Should they exercise sympathy, understanding, and compassion, by God yes.

 

[IPOGT]

Ha ha on the My Pillow guy.

I agree with you that laws are used as tools, but it really doesn't change anything. If you do something that is illegal, you are putting yourself in a situation where you might get in trouble for it, or at least get stopped.

One thing I didn't say previously is that Ford puts pretty loud exhaust on their cars now. I like the sound of a V8, but I know a lot of people don't. I accept having quiet exhaust on my current Mustang because I think it makes me slightly less of a target for law enforcement. I think it's cool Ford does what their customers want, but there's also a risk for people who buy these cars. I loved my GT350 when I owned it, but I didn't like how the active exhaust would automatically go to loud mode if I stepped on the gas a little too much. Not good for a 6 am commute.

Sorry officer, I will accept your ticket and go to court with two items.
1) A certificate of unmodified vehicle from the dealer.
2) The EPA certified listed federal acceptance for your model vehicle.
And then I’d send the local PD a bill for your time and minimal trouble and copy the city attorney. Clearly, if you’re going to enforce motor vehicle laws, you should know your way around motor vehicles. Example: If you’re on patrol and you see a Mach 1 you should know that those cars are louder than a normal car, otherwise you’re just harassing someone.

 

[Oakley]

100% agree that if any cop is stopping someone for a stock OEM exhaust “not in track mode I’m gathering from whatever disclaimer Ford makes you agree to when selecting it” then we have a problem. If the cop cannot determine the sound difference between a stock or a “modified-or Track Mode” exhaust then they need better hearing or a different job.

they shouldn't have been given that power all hinged upon their own personal opinion.

What would the roads be like without rules?

rules governing behavior have existed since the beginning. rules governing taste are tyrannical.

I hate the rice burners and motorcycles that love to rev their engines at the red light on a nice summer day while my windows are down. Now that is based on a “reasonable” cop enforcing a law correctly.

and your desire to control strangers through the use of government force has now been turned back toward you and your ilk. now there's a thread on a mustang forum about a guy being hassled for having a completely unmodified car.

do you see the connection? you guys wanna make deals with the devil and keep getting shocked when it gets used against you.

the moral of the story here is simple: leave people the F alone and fight the tyranny all these morons invited into their house.

 

[2016S550]

rules governing behavior have existed since the beginning. rules governing taste are tyrannical.



and your desire to control strangers through the use of government force has now been turned back toward you and your ilk. now there's a thread on a mustang forum about a guy being hassled for having a completely unmodified car.

do you see the connection? you guys wanna make deals with the devil and keep getting shocked when it gets used against you.

the moral of the story here is simple: leave people the F alone and fight the tyranny all these morons invited into their house.

It’s called a civilized society……Ok you are right and I am wrong. All better.

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