Tough decision!

[Streetcar]

Personally I could never own a mustang without a v8 your getting only half the experience.

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[Anvil3]

Personally I could never own a mustang without a v8 your getting only half the experience.

That's your perspective and it's perfectly valid. But I didn't choose the "Mustang Experience." I chose a car that I liked to drive and suited my wants and needs. I have no attachment to some Mustang ideal or preconceptions about what it should be.

I love the GT but I'd get the benefit of the V8 less than 10% of the time I drive it. No denying the feel of it, but it would be frustrating for me. If I lived somewhere else, it might be a different story.

I've gone much faster than a GT is capable of. I'm not worried about having the fastest car in town. I'm more interested in the overall feel of it, its handling and road holding.

Besides, in a few years, it might be time to buy another car. That one could be a fun-only weekend car/track car. Then something like a GT350 starts to make much more sense for me. We'll see.

 

[Endokendal]

That is roughly Invoice, then you would also be eligible for the rebates in play. If Ruby is still available when I am able to order next spring it will be my choice. I have visited local dealers no less than 15 times to look at all colors in different lighting. It came down to Ruby, Silver, Magnetic, and Yellow. I love Black but refuse to go down that road again, too much maintenance to look good. Ruby looks good all the time, Silver shows the lines perfectly but does not wow me, Magnetic is gorgeous in the right lighting, and Yellow is definitely an eye catcher. Who knows, I may change my mind 20 times before the time comes and then again Ford may add a color next year. Hopefully Ruby will still be around.

You will absolutely love Ruby Red. I just can't get over how awesome it is, and I've had mine for 2 months. Great choice!

 

[Endokendal]

Thanks Branden, but at this point I'll just go with the price they gave me. They were $1200 below what another dealer quoted me on the Ecoboost. They might still give me any incentives that come up.....no contract signed.

You will not be sorry Mark. I also debated between the Eco and the GT. I'm 49, have always had very practical cars, and decided I wanted the feel of awesomeness that comes from stepping on the gas at every stop light. It makes me smile every day. Woo hoo!

 

[CMC#5]

Nobody has ever sat around swirling their drink and thinking "you know, I wish my car had a little less horsepower".

 

[Spartan]

That's your perspective and it's perfectly valid. But I didn't choose the "Mustang Experience." I chose a car that I liked to drive and suited my wants and needs. I have no attachment to some Mustang ideal or preconceptions about what it should be.

I love the GT but I'd get the benefit of the V8 less than 10% of the time I drive it. No denying the feel of it, but it would be frustrating for me. If I lived somewhere else, it might be a different story.

I've gone much faster than a GT is capable of. I'm not worried about having the fastest car in town. I'm more interested in the overall feel of it, its handling and road holding.

Besides, in a few years, it might be time to buy another car. That one could be a fun-only weekend car/track car. Then something like a GT350 starts to make much more sense for me. We'll see.

I kinda felt the same way...but after driving both, I really feel the GT just puts the car in a class of it's own. A few other things I took into account was that the EB needs 93 to have the 310 HP, otherwise it's going to be in the 270s and at that point you'd be driving a Sonata or Optima in terms of power. I also took into account the gas savings of 87 in the GT vs 93 in the EB and it comes out to for the same money spent, you get about 18 gallon in the GT vs 15 in the EB and when that is factored in, the MPG closes in between the models. Lastly, having never owned a Mustang, after being in both, the V8 sound is just something that is amazing.

Now don't get me wrong, the EB is amazing also. It's like having an Audi A5 and in fact, is closer to an Audi S5 which is an awesome car. I'm 99% sure I'm going GT, but I will give the EB one more test drive. I took the GT out today and man oh man...putting that thing in Sport+ mode in the auto is just a difference experience. It's like having 2 different cars...normal/normal is like a nice touring Euro car and then Sport/Sport+ is like having a elite Euro/American sports car.

Also, interesting talking to the dealer today, he really recommended not getting the EB with PP and said stick with the EB premium...otherwise just go up to the GT if you want the EB PP.

 

[JohnK]

I am 68 and retired 3 years now. In the muscle car era of the 60s and 70s, I was saving money to get through college, so feel that I missed out on having a real muscle car. So this is my chance. The only one I have considered in the GT. I don't need that much power, but for me a lot of the decision is how the car will sound. I want it to sound like a muscle car. Pretty sure I'll change out the exhaust to Ford Racing Touring Cat-Back so it doesn't sound so tame. Wife's care will be paid for in May, so I will be ordering in early March. Good luck with your decision.

 

[Apwrx]

I kinda felt the same way...but after driving both, I really feel the GT just puts the car in a class of it's own. A few other things I took into account was that the EB needs 93 to have the 310 HP, otherwise it's going to be in the 270s and at that point you'd be driving a Sonata or Optima in terms of power. I also took into account the gas savings of 87 in the GT vs 93 in the EB and it comes out to for the same money spent, you get about 18 gallon in the GT vs 15 in the EB and when that is factored in, the MPG closes in between the models. Lastly, having never owned a Mustang, after being in both, the V8 sound is just something that is amazing.

Now don't get me wrong, the EB is amazing also. It's like having an Audi A5 and in fact, is closer to an Audi S5 which is an awesome car. I'm 99% sure I'm going GT, but I will give the EB one more test drive. I took the GT out today and man oh man...putting that thing in Sport+ mode in the auto is just a difference experience. It's like having 2 different cars...normal/normal is like a nice touring Euro car and then Sport/Sport+ is like having a elite Euro/American sports car.

Also, interesting talking to the dealer today, he really recommended not getting the EB with PP and said stick with the EB premium...otherwise just go up to the GT if you want the EB PP.

I chose the EB over the v8. Premium PP on both. I felt like the v8 was on full tilt the whole time.Eb was easier to just cruise IMO.Plus with a tune I've still got the v8 feel/driving experience
Not sure why the dealer would say the EB pp thing....that doesn't even make sense. congrats on your decision though. Both are great cars.:clap2:

 

[Highwayman]

Congrats bud. Welcome to the club. You made the right choice.

 

[Anvil3]

I kinda felt the same way...but after driving both, I really feel the GT just puts the car in a class of it's own. A few other things I took into account was that the EB needs 93 to have the 310 HP, otherwise it's going to be in the 270s and at that point you'd be driving a Sonata or Optima in terms of power. I also took into account the gas savings of 87 in the GT vs 93 in the EB and it comes out to for the same money spent, you get about 18 gallon in the GT vs 15 in the EB and when that is factored in, the MPG closes in between the models. Lastly, having never owned a Mustang, after being in both, the V8 sound is just something that is amazing.

Now don't get me wrong, the EB is amazing also. It's like having an Audi A5 and in fact, is closer to an Audi S5 which is an awesome car. I'm 99% sure I'm going GT, but I will give the EB one more test drive. I took the GT out today and man oh man...putting that thing in Sport+ mode in the auto is just a difference experience. It's like having 2 different cars...normal/normal is like a nice touring Euro car and then Sport/Sport+ is like having a elite Euro/American sports car.

Also, interesting talking to the dealer today, he really recommended not getting the EB with PP and said stick with the EB premium...otherwise just go up to the GT if you want the EB PP.

Yeah, I think that's a pretty good assessment. The S5 was one of the cars on my radar. The EB is much quicker than the A5 and nearer the S, minus the AWD, of course.

Now why the dealer told you not to get the EB PP is beyond me. Maybe he has has some valid reason, but I can't think of a real compelling one. The PP makes a difference. The car is much more tied down without ruing the ride quality. If you live in an area with few corners and/or want a cushier ride, you could do without it. It also might not be as critical in the EB because it weighs about 200 pounds less than the GT, but that's about it.

Turbos also generate a lot of heat. I would think you'd want the larger radiator that comes with the PP.

I'd be dubious of anything a dealer tells me. Sounds more like an up-selling technique if he knows you're ready to spend more on the GT.

 

[Spartan]

Yeah, I think that's a pretty good assessment. The S5 was one of the cars on my radar. The EB is much quicker than the A5 and nearer the S, minus the AWD, of course.

Now why the dealer told you not to get the EB PP is beyond me. Maybe he has has some valid reason, but I can't think of a real compelling one. The PP makes a difference. The car is much more tied down without ruing the ride quality. If you live in an area with few corners and/or want a cushier ride, you could do without it. It also might not be as critical in the EB because it weighs about 200 pounds less than the GT, but that's about it.

Turbos also generate a lot of heat. I would think you'd want the larger radiator that comes with the PP.

I'd be dubious of anything a dealer tells me. Sounds more like an up-selling technique if he knows you're ready to spend more on the GT.

I think his reasoning is that if you are wanting those things on the EB, then just take the leap to the GT since the EB is getting the GT radiator, springs, 3.55, brakes, etc.

And yes I was looking at an A5 before this. This is why I have this Angel/Devil thing going (the angel is Audi, the Devil is GT).....Since I was looking at an A5, then obviously why wouldn't I be considering the EB due to same type of car in HP, style, etc, BUT then I have the whole if you were going to spend that on the A5, then spend a little less and still get the GT which is a hell of a lot more power for still less then the A5 by a wide margin. To get the HP in an Audi, you'd have to get an RS5 in that range.

Also--and I'll stop droning on after this last point--to state that the EB is for "sissies" is pretty silly. I see this attitude in bikes, too. We usually laugh at people who talk like that. More often than not, those statements come from people who are desperate for validation and can't find the apex of a corner if their lives depended on it. (And sometimes it does.)

Oh I totally agree with this statement.

 

[2016S550]

Nobody has ever sat around swirling their drink and thinking "you know, I wish my car had a little less horsepower".

Now that's funny right there........:clap2:

 

[Spartan]

Maybe one of you guys in here can answer this...

Any clue what these are with the PP and do we have definitive proof they actually do something to the car?

- Unique Chassis Tuning
- Unique calibration (EPAS, ABS & ESC)

 

[Anvil3]

I think his reasoning is that if you are wanting those things on the EB, then just take the leap to the GT since the EB is getting the GT radiator, springs, 3.55, brakes, etc.

This is NOT a good reason to not get the PP on the EB. It's an up-sell.

Which trim levels are you comparing? Because comparing an EB PP equipped car and a non-PP GT is not exactly apples to apples. The EB PP has the base GT braking set-up because it doesn't need the six-piston Brembos and larger rotors (and their associated weight gain) due to the reduced weight over the front end. Believe me, it stops very, very quickly.

The non-PP GT doesn't get the K-bracing in the engine bay, the beefier anti-roll bars, the uprated dampers, or the 19 inch wheels, either. (One minus here is the summer tire package, which is not good for cold climates.)

Now the GT PP and EB PP do pretty much the same thing for their respective models and are an apples-to-apples comparison, with some difference in components due to weight and power requirements. In that case, you're looking at a $6-7K difference for similarly equipped cars.

And yes I was looking at an A5 before this. This is why I have this Angel/Devil thing going (the angel is Audi, the Devil is GT).....Since I was looking at an A5, then obviously why wouldn't I be considering the EB due to same type of car in HP, style, etc, BUT then I have the whole if you were going to spend that on the A5, then spend a little less and still get the GT which is a hell of a lot more power for still less then the A5 by a wide margin. To get the HP in an Audi, you'd have to get an RS5 in that range.

I think this is a decision a lot of us have to make. To me, there are two different ways to look at it.

Price: You were going to spend that much money anyway and why not buy the most power that you can get for that amount of money? Hard to argue with that.

Requirements/expectations: You were looking at a specific type of car like, for example, the A5/S5. The EB PP ticks nearly all of the same boxes and, as a bonus, comes in at a significantly lower price.

In my case, since I wasn't looking for pure power or a "muscle car," it made more sense to me to go for the EB PP. It fit my requirements and expectations and, while I can afford the GT Premium PP, I liked the idea that I could use the saved money for my other hobbies, like the money pit that is motorcycling. It took some self-discipline not to just go for the GT, but I liked the lighter weight and slightly better handling characteristics of the EB PP, too.

For me, a win/win. For you, the best outcome might be different. Whichever way you go, it'll be fun.

Last note: Sounds like the salesman is trying to up-sell you for sure. Go with whichever one makes you happier.

 

[milo4753]

I agree on the decision to get the GT as I also grew up in the muscle car age and had a couple myself. I plan on retiring this summer and part of that plan is a new mustang. I've always wanted one... my wife says I've earned it and who am I to argue as she is always right. Right? So I'll gain as much info/knowledge from you guys here until the winter is over and order in the spring, hopefully with some more incentives.

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