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    They work just as well as the 170. Something is off. :( sorry to hear of your difficulty
     
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    Here are the pics of the thermostat that I pulled out.

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    I have a Reische 170 and my cylinder head temps dropped from 210 to a steady 190 in hot and humid weather.
     
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    205-210 sorry
     
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    #25 gsxr1300, Nov 27, 2015
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    Thanks any number on the bottom? in the center in the hole.
    looks like an evenflo 160.
     
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    Same ^^^^^^
     
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    I am having the same exact temps with my EvenFlo 160 Tstat from Beef.:confused:
     
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    [MENTION=10926]beefcake[/MENTION] Any thoughts on why some of these guys are running so warm?
     
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    typically its the lack of the PP radiator allowing large temp swings, although I think I saw at least one person with PP in his sig report higher temps.

    could also be an air pocket in the system.
     
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    #30 gsxr1300, Nov 28, 2015
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    I found some good info here.
    http://www.f150ecoboost.net/forum/36-eco-power-parts/3729-thermostats-your-f150.html

    the differences between "hot-side" vs "cold-side" application.

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    So in the hot-side system the thermostat is placed pre-radiator: coolant flows in from the side (GREEN/RED) and, depending on it's temp, coolant is directed either up to the radiator to be chilled or if the coolant is not hot enough, the thermostat stays closed and the coolant is directed down through the bypass to recirculate. Of course the thermostat will often run partially open, directing a little coolant to both paths.

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    In the cold-side system coolant flows the opposite direction and the thermostat is post-radiator: Unlike a hot-side thermostat, the bypass control (brass bottom) is not attached to the upper assembly/diaphragm and does not move when the thermostat opens. It maintains contact so the bypass coolant can only flow up through the inside of the pipe, keeping the heat motor in direct contact with the bypass coolant temperature so the thermostat can function properly at all times. When the bypass coolant is hot enough the thermostat opens (bringing in chilled coolant from the radiator - BLUE); this also pushes the heat motor further down into the pipe which closes off the holes in the pipe for the bypass (RED) and shields it from the chilled coolant. However a small amount of bypass coolant is allowed to flow across the heat motor at all times so it can still monitor and respond to changes in the coolant temp.

    A hot-side thermostat can function in a cold-side setup to a large degree but there are some drawbacks: When the thermostat opens some of the chilled coolant will mix in and expose the heat motor to cooler temps then it should be seeing to operate properly. Cooler temps then force the thermostat to start closing prematurely and once this happens, the hot bypass coolant will then start to make it open back up... and the cycle repeats. Another issue is the thermostat will always struggle to stay fully open because as soon as the bypass is completely shut off, the heat motor will no longer be exposed to hot coolant, forcing it to close again. The LMS/Even Flo thermostat attempts to address this by placing 4 holes in the bypass valve but then you always have a good amount of coolant recirculating through the bypass instead of being directed through the radiator as it should be.

    In my own real world testing with a hot-side thermostat in a cold-side application I found the primary drawback was the way it handled changing conditions. You could see a nice stable temp cruising down the freeway but as soon as you exited and started slowing down to a stop the temp would immediately spike up and it took a little time for it to re-stabilize and cool back down.
     
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    I ordered a Reische 170 so I be able to compare temps shortly.
     
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    what are the cons of doing this
     
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    nothing if you have a tune set up for it, to turn the fans on earlier.
     
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    I've commanded my fans to come on 100% at 170 and it still runs 210-215 most of the time. I do not have the Performance Package and I do have an Auto. I am running a 160.

    I have a feeling the combination of auto trans cooler (I assume it's part of the radiator like a lot of cars) and having the smaller base radiator is the cause.

    I have a C7 with a 160 but it's a manual trans and it went from 210-215 ECT to 175 and will only rise if I let it idle long term in the summer.

    Maybe people can post if they:

    1. Have Performance package
    2. Have an auto
    3. the effect of the thermostat
     
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    1. Yes PP

    2. Manual

    3. 200-210

    Using T Stat supplied in Whipple kit
     
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    ambient temp also
     
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    And what tstat they are using
     
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    I have a PP, 170 thermostat and whipple SC. The highest temps that I see are 185; maybe 186. That is after my Lund tune. Before, without changing my tune for the thermostat I would see 196.

    But, if you are going to change the thermostat, save yourself time and get a hose clamp. I used one and didn't have to drain my radiator. Didn't even crawl under my car for it lol.

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    1. yes PP
    2. manual
    3. went from 200 - 210 down to 185 - 195
     
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