The Down and Dirty ADM Thread

[Gloff]

What color combo?

And look at this, we have a R advertised for $10K over and now $7K over only 2 days after I listed my local dealership was asking $40K over. And both these cars appear to be in CA.

Glad to see more realistic prices. Screw these wacky dealers who want $30-$40K over.

30k is way over market as you know, national average asking seems to be right around 18-20k, actual transactions? Who knows, 7k is an outright steal though.

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[Bladex10]

Well i found the winner, White R at my local dealer in Norcal. $60k ADM SIXTY THOUSAND over with a $13X,XXX asking price LOL

 

[Cgocifer]

I don't get it, there are tons of a 350s for sale on ebay from dealerships with buy it now prices in the 50s and 60s. Just click the buy it now button, done. What am I missing?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-Ford-M...ash=item51fef92e33:g:8vIAAOSwT-FZA5Xl&vxp=mtr

 

[aham23]

most of this talk is centered around Rs. anyone with the internet knows you can get a regular 350 at or below MSRP.

 

[Cgocifer]

most of this talk is centered around Rs. anyone with the internet knows you can get a regular 350 at or below MSRP.

Oh, gotcha

 

[Mike5876]

i have my brand new 200 miles grabber blue R on eBay at $77500 pretty firm its what i have in it i haven't seen many cheaper than that mike

 

[jedirocker]

Oh, gotcha

Noticed several of the dealers in DFW area have GT350's in stock and are asking MSRP, but one is asking $10K over MSRP. :headbonk:

 

[mike.s]

Noticed several of the dealers in DFW area have GT350's in stock and are asking MSRP, but one is asking $10K over MSRP. :headbonk:

i think they are hoping someone will come in and plunk the cash down but my bet if if you are serious they will dump the ADM pretty quickly. its too late in the game for ADM, end of run and gt500 just around the corner

 

[Need4SpeedMotors]

Now this wrapped Shelby 350GT on Toyo R888 Project 6GR Five Satin Black, Braum Seats, costume interior stitching, driving thru the streets of California. What you think of this color combo?
Wheelsroject 6GR Five r-spec
Color:Satin Black
Sizes:19x11/19x11.5​

 

[Vegas5OH]

If anybody's interested I have a new Yellow 17 GT350 with black stripes available for under MSRP. PM me for more info.

 

[tracktardicus]

So, after a two-month journey, I have finally found my GT350R at $1500 over sticker. It was not exactly what I was looking for, but I found you can't be picky. I thought I would pass on my experience and the results of my research in the hope that one of the enthusiasts on this site worthy of this tremendous car might get lucky too. My first experience was at a large local dealership who had a base 2017 non-R GT350 at $20k over sticker (it's still there, and still priced the same. What jackwagons.)

I have a list of 11 2017 GT350R VIN's from dealerships that might be willing to deal. if you are:

Serious and ready to buy a 2017 model now
Don't care too much about colors
Are either willing to travel and drive home your car or have it shipped


PM me and I'll send you the list of VIN's. Dump them in the search tool of your choice.

Here's how I found my car:
I had a spreadsheet of 40 new cars that I whittled down to just two that were in my price range. On one car I agreed to purchase it, sent a copy of my license and insurance card, booked a flight and a rental car, and sent my itinerary to the salesperson. One day before my flight, I got an e-mail from the salesperson telling me that they had sold it to someone else-no courtesy call or an opportunity to match or beat the offer. BARF.
Later, I found my car at at a small dealership an hour outside a major city-they had had the car for 5 months. The owner special-ordered the car to keep for himself, but then decided to retire. So I got lucky, the right place at the right time, etc.
Here is what might help:


Be nice.


Use autolist.com to view how long the car has been at the dealership. It's not 100% accurate, but it helps. Cars.com also lets you sort by list date. There are cars that are not listed on autotrader or cars.com or ebay, but they will be listed on autolist or on the Shop Ford website. The Shop Ford Inventory Search tool sucks because they limit your search to 100 miles from a specific zip. Yes, I entered zips for every region I was willing to travel to to buy a GT350R. There are probably easier ways to find this data, but I wasn't able to find it. Let me know if you know of a better method.


See if you can find the Internet or other sales manager on their website or through linkedin and deal directly with them via e-mail first, or by phone if there is no e-mail address available. They may shunt you to a salesperson, but at least they'll know who you are and that you are a serious buyer before the buying process begins.
If it's a small dealership, try the owner. In my case I got lucky and I worked with the dealership owner directly. If you do make contact by phone, ask for an e-mail address and request that all further correspondence take place via e-mail. This gives you control of the communication process and provides a record of communication.


Let them know that you are an enthusiast and not a collector. This may not make a difference at the majority of dealerships, but it did for me. If your car is going to sit in a garage and be wiped down daily with a diaper, then you are part of the problem. These cars were designed and engineered by Ford to be experienced by enthusiasts at a track at a specific price point. If you are not going to track your car and obtain some sort of quality high-performance driving education, then you will never be able to truly experience the full capability of this world-class car in a safe environment without putting yourself and others at risk. <steps off soapbox>


It helps to be a veteran or member of law enforcement. If you are, ask them if they have any veteran's programs or if they partner with USAA with their car buying service, even if you won't use it or you are not a USAA member.


Wait until a day or two before the end of the month if possible before contacting the dealership. If you have reached out to a dealership, contact them again every month at the end of the month to see if they will deal.


If at the end, a dealer is not willing to discuss a reasonable price, ask them to reconsider. Tell them that the people who are willing to pay $10K or more over sticker have already bought one. Mention that the 2018 cars are shipping, that Ford just announced the GT500, and that there are rumors of a 2019 GT350 production run.

 

[PP0001]

So, after a two-month journey, I have finally found my GT350R at $1500 over sticker. It was not exactly what I was looking for, but I found you can't be picky. I thought I would pass on my experience and the results of my research in the hope that one of the enthusiasts on this site worthy of this tremendous car might get lucky too. My first experience was at a large local dealership who had a base 2017 non-R GT350 at $20k over sticker (it's still there, and still priced the same. What jackwagons.)

I have a list of 11 2017 GT350R VIN's from dealerships that might be willing to deal. if you are:

Serious and ready to buy a 2017 model now
Don't care too much about colors
Are either willing to travel and drive home your car or have it shipped


PM me and I'll send you the list of VIN's. Dump them in the search tool of your choice.

Here's how I found my car:
I had a spreadsheet of 40 new cars that I whittled down to just two that were in my price range. On one car I agreed to purchase it, sent a copy of my license and insurance card, booked a flight and a rental car, and sent my itinerary to the salesperson. One day before my flight, I got an e-mail from the salesperson telling me that they had sold it to someone else-no courtesy call or an opportunity to match or beat the offer. BARF.
Later, I found my car at at a small dealership an hour outside a major city-they had had the car for 5 months. The owner special-ordered the car to keep for himself, but then decided to retire. So I got lucky, the right place at the right time, etc.
Here is what might help:


Be nice.


Use autolist.com to view how long the car has been at the dealership. It's not 100% accurate, but it helps. Cars.com also lets you sort by list date. There are cars that are not listed on autotrader or cars.com or ebay, but they will be listed on autolist or on the Shop Ford website. The Shop Ford Inventory Search tool sucks because they limit your search to 100 miles from a specific zip. Yes, I entered zips for every region I was willing to travel to to buy a GT350R. There are probably easier ways to find this data, but I wasn't able to find it. Let me know if you know of a better method.


See if you can find the Internet or other sales manager on their website or through linkedin and deal directly with them via e-mail first, or by phone if there is no e-mail address available. They may shunt you to a salesperson, but at least they'll know who you are and that you are a serious buyer before the buying process begins.
If it's a small dealership, try the owner. In my case I got lucky and I worked with the dealership owner directly. If you do make contact by phone, ask for an e-mail address and request that all further correspondence take place via e-mail. This gives you control of the communication process and provides a record of communication.


Let them know that you are an enthusiast and not a collector. This may not make a difference at the majority of dealerships, but it did for me. If your car is going to sit in a garage and be wiped down daily with a diaper, then you are part of the problem. These cars were designed and engineered by Ford to be experienced by enthusiasts at a track at a specific price point. If you are not going to track your car and obtain some sort of quality high-performance driving education, then you will never be able to truly experience the full capability of this world-class car in a safe environment without putting yourself and others at risk. <steps off soapbox>


It helps to be a veteran or member of law enforcement. If you are, ask them if they have any veteran's programs or if they partner with USAA with their car buying service, even if you won't use it or you are not a USAA member.


Wait until a day or two before the end of the month if possible before contacting the dealership. If you have reached out to a dealership, contact them again every month at the end of the month to see if they will deal.


If at the end, a dealer is not willing to discuss a reasonable price, ask them to reconsider. Tell them that the people who are willing to pay $10K or more over sticker have already bought one. Mention that the 2018 cars are shipping, that Ford just announced the GT500, and that there are rumors of a 2019 GT350 production run.

With all due respect since the R models were launched in the summer of 2015 I would suggest that pretty much all of the above has been covered during one time or another with Ford already having sold ~1650 R models to us enthusiasts since the launch of the GT350R back in July/August 2015.

For what it is worth I am an automotive enthusiast first and a collector second and can tell you that based on my experience after purchasing a number of new generation GT350/R's that Ford dealerships could care less as to what your intentions are for an R model or any other car for that matter as they just want to sell cars.

Congratulations on purchasing an R model and look forward to hopefully seeing some pictures of your new ride and can tell you that you will not be disappointed!

 

[TxOilMoney]

Tard, I have to hand it to you. You are one thorough SOB. Congrats on your success.

 

[TxOilMoney]

Noticed several of the dealers in DFW area have GT350's in stock and are asking MSRP, but one is asking $10K over MSRP. :headbonk:

Town East - grey R. 15k over
Grapevine - 2 R's. 20k over

Berkshire Hathaway recently bought both of these dealerships.

F.. 'em

 

[tracktardicus]

PP001, well, if we're going that route, I disagree...I used to sell new cars back in the day, so I understand your point, but the landscape has changed for the reasons specified in my post, and it made a difference for me and the dealer I purchased from that I was an enthusiast. If I were a collector, he probably wouldn't have sold the car to me at that price. There are tips like this scattered over this site and on the Internet, but not in one place, at least not that I have found. It is targeted for prospective buyers coming into the game a little late, as I did. Frankly, your post is not really helpful, and so I wish you would adhere to the idea that if you don't have something positive to say, don't say anything at all. And finally, the saying is, "Ford dealerships couldn't care less."

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