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I'm running SW along with my Corsas. You'll be very happy with them.
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Yessir, Project Honey Badger sounds like a beast!!
 

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ok. so after reading this, what is the point of headers? I thought you would get substantial HP gains from headers paired with a catback?
the dyno beefcake posted said it was making 383 after header install...wtf. isn't that what the car makes stock? ( to the wheels not crank)
so are headers just for sound?
 
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ok. so after reading this, what is the point of headers? I thought you would get substantial HP gains from headers paired with a catback?
the dyno beefcake posted said it was making 383 after header install...wtf. isn't that what the car makes stock? ( to the wheels not crank)
so are headers just for sound?
Not an expert at all but I believe the Autos dyno lower because it's not as easy
 

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ok. so after reading this, what is the point of headers? I thought you would get substantial HP gains from headers paired with a catback?
the dyno beefcake posted said it was making 383 after header install...wtf. isn't that what the car makes stock? ( to the wheels not crank)
so are headers just for sound?
I believe Beef's car is auto, and there is more drivetrain hp loss with the autos.
 

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ok. so after reading this, what is the point of headers? I thought you would get substantial HP gains from headers paired with a catback?
the dyno beefcake posted said it was making 383 after header install...wtf. isn't that what the car makes stock? ( to the wheels not crank)
so are headers just for sound?
I believe Beef's car is auto, and there is more drivetrain hp loss with the autos.
yes, our car made 330's to 340s stock

the autos don't lock on the dyno typically either, and being an auto, your seeing a lot of drivetrain loss

but..it translates at the track... as we showed this weekend!
 

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My car baselined at 375whp. After SW headers, Corsa Xtremes, and tune, 430whp. Headers help.
 

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My car baselined at 375whp. After SW headers, Corsa Xtremes, and tune, 430whp. Headers help.

I would also like to add to Josh's statement. Although peak HP is gained, you gain power throughout the entire powercurve.
 

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I would also like to add to Josh's statement. Although peak HP is gained, you gain power throughout the entire powercurve.
That too lol...I can post a dyno sheet comparison. Pretty sure I did in my build thread.
 

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is anyone going to give JBA shot? I have never heard anybody say anything bad about them I personally do not have any experience with them but have been thinking about buying a set for my car
 

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If you add a Corsa sticker to the rear window I have heard of gains in the 1.1-1.2 million hp range... #awesomelogic :^)

Thanks for the support! Enjoy! Post your findings after you choose/install

 

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ARH all the way. Their customer service is top notch and you get what you pay for.
 

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The way we go about selecting the headers is this.

All 3 of the usa made are top notch and you can't go wrong.

1) For Full systems out of the gate.
Any of the 3 work great, and all have full 3" performance connect setups.

2) For those that want to keep the stock exhaust but want the best performance gain, we like the ARH. The ARH is going to delete the resonator by going back further in the system. Still gives the sleeper sound, but more tone, and max performance.

3) For those that have a specific cat back they want to buy or already have bought, we recommend the sw, sp, or kooks, as those will stop at the factory connection point and mate directly to the fact connect cat back.

4) For those that have a specific axle back they want to buy or already have bought, we recommend the arh, again, like # 2, they delete the resonator and will give a max effort gain.

5) For those that are very sensitive to drone, and have specific axle back they want or have already bought, and want to keep the resonator, we recommend the sw, sp, or kooks. Again, as they will stop at the fact connection point.

The quality of sw, arh, and kooks are all the very best. 304 stainless lifetime warranty. SP has a 2 year warranty.

You cannot go wrong with any selection at the end of the day. We use the above guidelines and it works very well.
 

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The way we go about selecting the headers is this.

All 3 of the usa made are top notch and you can't go wrong.

1) For Full systems out of the gate.
Any of the 3 work great, and all have full 3" performance connect setups.

2) For those that want to keep the stock exhaust but want the best performance gain, we like the ARH. The ARH is going to delete the resonator by going back further in the system. Still gives the sleeper sound, but more tone, and max performance.

3) For those that have a specific cat back they want to buy or already have bought, we recommend the sw, sp, or kooks, as those will stop at the factory connection point and mate directly to the fact connect cat back.

4) For those that have a specific axle back they want to buy or already have bought, we recommend the arh, again, like # 2, they delete the resonator and will give a max effort gain.

5) For those that are very sensitive to drone, and have specific axle back they want or have already bought, and want to keep the resonator, we recommend the sw, sp, or kooks. Again, as they will stop at the fact connection point.

The quality of sw, arh, and kooks are all the very best. 304 stainless lifetime warranty. SP has a 2 year warranty.

You cannot go wrong with any selection at the end of the day. We use the above guidelines and it works very well.
Could you substitute Stainless Power wherever you mention SW? Understanding they are not US made.
 

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Could you substitute Stainless Power wherever you mention SW? Understanding they are not US made.
yes, you could, sw, sp, and kooks will all use similar connection points.

for some reason, I think a few get the impression that we don't like ARH, which is simply not the case. We have run ARH on some of our NMRA and NMCA Championship winning cars. They make a great product. We install locally on customers cars as well.

From a $$ standpoint and a needs standpoint, each of the systems has their particular place where they shine. We try to fit those needs to our customers vs saying, This is the only option.

In my list, each way we recommend, gives the customer the best value.

#1) All are an equal value
#2 & #4) ARH is the better value
#3 & #5) SW, SP, Kooks are the better value
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