Sound Advice.

[mj]

So I went and drove the GT PP car at my dealer tonight.
I love it. Most of what I loved should be there in the EB as well. I guess you could say I loved the car as a whole. It feels so well put together. Just solid overall. I didn't drive over any unusually rough pavement and can only say from the average roads I drove on the ride was excellent. Very pleased. Brakes are very responsive.

So now I know what direction to take.
Drive the EB hopefully next week. If I like it I will order the one I want then. If the V8 is just significantly better to me and they still have the car I test drove on the lot I'll get that one. If not I'll order one like it.

Make sure when test driving the EB, to put it in "Sport" mode. "Normal" mode requires more accelerator input, and in my opinion, makes the EB feel slower than it actually is. Good luck with your decision.....

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[akwal07]

You will save 1k a year if you use it as a Dd...on top of the already 6k savings. The cost of owning + insurance over 5 years could be a 14k+ diff

 

[Keyser_Soze]

Gaaah, I drive 25k miles/year, almost all country roads at 60-65 so I'd get great mileage out of either car. Starting to think the GTPP is going to be a considerable premium over the EB, just wondering the difference in smiles per gallon on a 45 minute daily commute. Decisions.

 

[70monte]

It all comes down to what is important to you in this car. Power and sound vs cheaper price and better gas mileage.

When I think of a sports car, I think of V8 and the sound of one. My previous car was a Supercharged 2004 Monte Carlo SS Dale Jr. edition. While it looked very sharp and had good power, it still didn't have as much power as I wanted and didn't have that V8 sound I wanted even though It had a Borla Cat-back on it.

When I decided to get something different in a sports type car, I only looked at models that were V8's. Gas mileage was not a concern since this was only going to be a play type vehicle and not a DD. I ended up with a 14 GT that gets 23-25mpg on the highway and has all of the power I want and a great sound to boot.

If I decide to step up to this generation of Mustang, it will be a GT.

Wayne

 

[akwal07]

It all comes down to what is important to you in this car. Power and sound vs cheaper price and better gas mileage.

When I think of a sports car, I think of V8 and the sound of one. My previous car was a Supercharged 2004 Monte Carlo SS Dale Jr. edition. While it looked very sharp and had good power, it still didn't have as much power as I wanted and didn't have that V8 sound I wanted even though It had a Borla Cat-back on it.

When I decided to get something different in a sports type car, I only looked at models that were V8's. Gas mileage was not a concern since this was only going to be a play type vehicle and not a DD. I ended up with a 14 GT that gets 23-25mpg on the highway and has all of the power I want and a great sound to boot.

If I decide to step up to this generation of Mustang, it will be a GT.

Wayne

When I think sports car I don't think mustang gt. Mustangs are pony cars which are sporty. Sports cars can definitely be 6s, gtr? Porches? Jags? Those are sports cars

"Pony car is an American class of automobile launched and inspired by the Ford Mustang in 1964.[1][2] The term describes an affordable, compact, highly styled car with a sporty or performance-oriented image."


"As a result, the basic two-door, four passenger Pony Car characteristics were set:[12][13]

Stylish and sporty long hood, short deck, and "open mouth" styling
Affordable base price (under $2,500 — in 1965 dollar value)
"Off-the-shelf" mass production components
Wide range of often lucrative options to individualize each car
Youth-oriented marketing and advertising"

 

[STAMPEDE]

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Ya always need more go!

 

[70monte]

When I think sports car I don't think mustang gt. Mustangs are pony cars which are sporty. Sports cars can definitely be 6s, gtr? Porches? Jags? Those are sports cars

"Pony car is an American class of automobile launched and inspired by the Ford Mustang in 1964.[1][2] The term describes an affordable, compact, highly styled car with a sporty or performance-oriented image."


"As a result, the basic two-door, four passenger Pony Car characteristics were set:[12][13]

Stylish and sporty long hood, short deck, and "open mouth" styling
Affordable base price (under $2,500 — in 1965 dollar value)
"Off-the-shelf" mass production components
Wide range of often lucrative options to individualize each car
Youth-oriented marketing and advertising"

I should have said performance car instead of sports car.

Wayne

 

[Dirtleg]

A little while has passed but the decision was made Monday. I finally drove an EB unfortunately an auto but I did get to feel the torque down low. For a 2.3l it has gobs of torque. It wasn't a PP and was certainly less tied down than the GT PP I drove but was nowhere near floaty or sloppy in any way.
After doing a price analysis and a needs/desires analysis here is what I did.
Ordered an EB premium manual with PP in Magnetic.
After doing some cost analysis I determined that if I got the EB I could keep the 07' GT as well. If I got the GT it would have been prudent to put more in the pot up front and the 07' would have to go.
So now the 07' can become a track/autocross car and I will have the EB as a daily.
Tough decision I'll tell you.
Additionally since the EB is so much less I can pay it off earlier and pick up a GT 350 in a few years. Long range planning.
Now the wait is in effect.

 

[Tamadrummer88]

To further solidify your decision, all you need to know is this:

over 370RWTQ with just a tune.


That is all.

 

[Malikona]

To further solidify your decision, all you need to know is this:

over 370RWTQ with just a tune.


That is all.

lol, true dat.

 

[JimmyTwoTimes]

To further solidify your decision, all you need to know is this:

over 370RWTQ with just a tune.


That is all.

And blow your warranty and decrease your engine life...

 

[Branden]

And blow your warranty and decrease your engine life...

Every time I think about a tuned EB's possibilities, this is what ruins the dream... If I'm buying new, the warranty is important, so I'm definitely not tuning it while that's active.

It's just too bad you can't pay some kind of 1k premium (or as a part of the PP) to get a tune to eek out a bit more EB performance that's still covered under warranty. It would help bridge the straight-line gap between GT and EB.

 

[Tamadrummer88]

And blow your warranty and decrease your engine life...

Well thats the risk you take.


On the other hand, Ford Racing has a tune that got their EcoBoost into the 12's. But there was some other minor mods done to their car.

 

[Kongman]

Insurance for me is the same for the 15 GT as it is for the 13 v6

 

[Malikona]

Every time I think about a tuned EB's possibilities, this is what ruins the dream... If I'm buying new, the warranty is important, so I'm definitely not tuning it while that's active.

It's just too bad you can't pay some kind of 1k premium (or as a part of the PP) to get a tune to eek out a bit more EB performance that's still covered under warranty. It would help bridge the straight-line gap between GT and EB.

I know that the unexpected is always possible, but honestly how often do engine issues happen and get fixed under the warranty period anyway nowadays? A tune won't void the rest of your powertrain warranty, just anything that Ford can reasonably claim was caused by the modification. Chances are that anything which could happen as a result of increasing the boost would not happen during the warranty period, and similarly for any other engine issues with or without the tune. It's not that big of a risk IMO.

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