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I currently have the Roush phase 2 on my 2020 GT. I'm looking into getting a VMP Odin. The heat soak is really bad with the Roush due to the small intercooler. Looking at the top mount IC on the Odin and Whipple are a lot more efficient as I read and talk to people. Anyone have any experience with the Odin? I'm looking at the Odin due to living close to VMP and they are pretty popular around here. I also understand that they have a lot more potential than the Roush unit. I was just wondering if anyone has experience with these? If you talk to dealers they just tell you about what they want to tell you. The car is driven on the street mostly but I do enjoy taking it to the drag strip which is good for a couple runs before heat soak takes over.
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I currently have the Roush phase 2 on my 2020 GT. I'm looking into getting a VMP Odin. The heat soak is really bad with the Roush due to the small intercooler. Looking at the top mount IC on the Odin and Whipple are a lot more efficient as I read and talk to people. Anyone have any experience with the Odin? I'm looking at the Odin due to living close to VMP and they are pretty popular around here. I also understand that they have a lot more potential than the Roush unit. I was just wondering if anyone has experience with these? If you talk to dealers they just tell you about what they want to tell you. The car is driven on the street mostly but I do enjoy taking it to the drag strip which is good for a couple runs before heat soak takes over.
The Odin is based on the Magnuson 2650 rotor pack. The Maggie 2650 has slapped down 1400 WHP on a Gen 6 Camaro so it’s no joke. I don’t think the Odin configuration is quite as good as the Maggie buts still really good. I’m running the Whipple 3.0 on my Camaro and I’m at 1059 WHP with way more to go. The brick is straight up massive and the cooling is fantastic.
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The Roush is the same 2650 rotor pack as the Odin. The problem is the small IC brick, small 90mm inlet. If you have access to E85. The Roush with a fuel system 2.7 pulley can make around 800whp. The Odins upside is much higher. If your going to stay on pump gas. You might want to install a killer chiller and keep the Roush.
 
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The Roush is the same 2650 rotor pack as the Odin. The problem is the small IC brick, small 90mm inlet. If you have access to E85. The Roush with a fuel system 2.7 pulley can make around 800whp. The Odins upside is much higher. If your going to stay on pump gas. You might want to install a killer chiller and keep the Roush.
E85 is not readily available in my area. I’ve looked into the killer chiller and sounds like it works great but the downside is the air conditioning in the car and living in Central Florida that is important. It’s just a weekend car the wife and I enjoy. I just want a car that is capable of low 10s at the track but still enjoyable on a cruise. I like the Roush it’s just the heat soak is why I’m looking at changing.
 

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I don't think it's worth 7 to 10 grand when pump gas will be your true limiter. Engineer Mike is great example of how to push on pump gas. More gdi flow has worked very well for him. 700whp is about the limit most see. This shows up pretty regularly at oem levels too.

Better iat2 cooling does help with knock prevention. Phenolic spacers and pierberg cwa100 would be my first $600 spend before tossing the whole system out. Honestly just the $300 spacers to start and go from there. Can always reuse the spacers with vmp too. vmp used to be a supplier of the spacers too
 

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I don't think it's worth 7 to 10 grand when pump gas will be your true limiter. Engineer Mike is great example of how to push on pump gas. More gdi flow has worked very well for him. 700whp is about the limit most see. This shows up pretty regularly at oem levels too.

Better iat2 cooling does help with knock prevention. Phenolic spacers and pierberg cwa100 would be my first $600 spend before tossing the whole system out. Honestly just the $300 spacers to start and go from there. Can always reuse the spacers with vmp too. vmp used to be a supplier of the spacers too
I agree. Not worth the $ to stay on pump gas. Try cooling Mods and a Tune.
 

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Get with IC Chiller and speak to them about their system. Myself a few others just put it on our Roush Gen 3 cars. Keeps IAT2’s down and heat soak is gone without losing anything on the AC side of cooling your cabin.
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