replacement front 6.5 speaker

[SiMuL]

OK I think I’ve change my mind about the tweeters. They are now too loud and harsh. I’ve got treble all the way down to zero and on satellite radio it’s still too harsh. On Bluetooth, where are used to have it about 3/4, I now have it about one step above nothing. I have the mids all the way down to zero as well. Anything much higher than zero for treble and mid is just too harsh and the soundstage seems off. I guess since they are lower impedance it’s screwing things up.

This is almost definitely because you went from an 8ohm speaker to a 4ohm. This new tweeter is able to produce more sound with the same voltage from the radio, so your highs are way too hot compared to the rest of your speakers. The only way to fix this would probably be with a DSP where you can control each speaker individually (or as pairs). You'll then be able to fine-tune each pair of speakers to bring them all back into balance with each other.

I recently installed the Kenwood XR600-6DSP amp with the Maestro AR module (I have the 9-speaker setup) with the OEM speakers and I had to bring the midrange and tweeters down 1 DB. They sounded extremely harsh and nothing I did in the radio would help.

UPDATE: I just found this article that goes over adding a resistor to the speaker leads to increase resistance:

https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/231720/increasing-resistance-on-speakers

You could try adding a 4ohm resistor to raise the resistance back to 8ohms, which should drop the volume back down and re-balance your system.

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[Rash]

Is there any chance of damaging the amp using a 4 ohm tweeter instead of 8 ohm?

 

[SiMuL]

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Is there any chance of damaging the amp using a 4 ohm tweeter instead of 8 ohm?

I doubt any damage will incur. You've effectively reduced the amount of resistance the amp has to push through to power the speaker. In other words, the speaker is easier to move.

Adding a resistor is very easy. I just did a quick search for a 12w 4ohm resistor and found this:

https://www.parts-express.com/mills-4-ohm-12w-non-inductive-resistor--005-4

It's designed for audio applications, so I believe its intended use is exactly what I'm recommending here. You'd want to get two of those (one per tweeter), then run them inline on the positive lead to the tweeters. It doesn't matter where the resistor goes, so long as it's between the amp and tweeter on the positive wire. This would be the absolute easiest and cheapest fix for you.

 

[Rash]

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I doubt any damage will incur. You've effectively reduced the amount of resistance the amp has to push through to power the speaker. In other words, the speaker is easier to move.

Adding a resistor is very easy. I just did a quick search for a 12w 4ohm resistor and found this:

https://www.parts-express.com/mills-4-ohm-12w-non-inductive-resistor--005-4

It's designed for audio applications, so I believe its intended use is exactly what I'm recommending here. You'd want to get two of those (one per tweeter), then run them inline on the positive lead to the tweeters. It doesn't matter where the resistor goes, so long as it's between the amp and tweeter on the positive wire. This would be the absolute easiest and cheapest fix for you.

I read some things that said a resistor will reduce the wattage to the speaker, thus reducing fidelity/quality to a degree. Thoughts?

 

[Rash]

Just took the Powerbass tweeters out and put stock back in. Although the PBs were clearer and I could hear parts of songs that I couldn’t with factory, they were just too harsh and loud. I’m gonna see if there are any high quality 8 ohm tweeters out there. Or maybe just upgrade the 3.5 door speaker and hope for better mid-high clarity. Now gotta decide if I still wanna keep the PB 6.5 speakers or return them. I like that they are plug and play, but I wonder how they compared to Infinity or Kicker.

 

[CVCashmere]

The best way to describe it is a much clearer sound. I listen to Reggaeton. So I am setup on the powerful level of the stereo. Without the extended bass turned on. Only have had the speakers in for about 1 week so I have not had time to take them to my local audio dealer where I purchased them. They wanted to have the speakers adjusted professionally. It’s my daily driver. Overall a Hugh difference over the factory. Keep in mind they have a break in period. So, I don’t want to push them too hard.

Rocketboy

I have a vert without the subwoofer.

My door has 2 speakers in it. Which speaker, the lower one or higher one would I replace with a coaxial if i did not want to replace the tweeter?

thanks

CVCAshmere

 

[Rocketboy]

Sorry, I don’t know about the convertible mustang speakers.

 

[SiMuL]

I read some things that said a resistor will reduce the wattage to the speaker, thus reducing fidelity/quality to a degree. Thoughts?

Reducing wattage won't reduce the fidelity; it will reduce the volume, which is what you're after. I know you've already removed them, but it's a really cheap and easy thing to try and I bet they will sound perfect. ;)

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