R model on Ebay

[ddub68]

Does that matter? For some searching, I am sure they don't care.
collectors maybe.

It matters because that's what he states in the auction...

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[geb78]

Does that matter? For some searching, I am sure they don't care.
collectors maybe.

You wouldn't be eligible for the track day in Utah as a second owner. It's splitting hairs but I'd rather buy a 1 owner car vs a 2 owner.

 

[PP0001]

You mentioned that the sale may already be complete. If that's the case then the winning bidder would not be the first owner by definition of a completed sale. . If he has paid but not signed and/or paperwork submitted therefore not completing the sale transaction then that's a different story.

Maybe I missed something here but I do not recall mentioning that the sale may already be compete?:shrug:

Pretty hard to complete a sale of a vehicle when it has not even been assembled let alone without an MCO being issued for the vehicle in question which normally is then sent off to the state DMV at the time of purchase.

Subject to anyone paying the crazy amount that this seller is asking for I suggest that the paperwork would be just a formality for the person purchasing this vehicle.

:cheers:

 

[ohtobbad]

It matters because that's what he states in the auction...

Then likely he has the option on the car, at the end of the day the dealer does not care who's name the car goes in. I bought my wife an escape, I paid for it, but it is in her name, the dealer didn't even blink.
To many factors to care, unless you are the one involved in the transaction.

 

[geb78]

Why couldn't the winning bidder be the first owner?

Until the car is received at the selling dealership and paid for by an individual and the MCO from Ford is either signed over to the new owner or sent into the state DMV no ownership has been established.

I suggest that the seller here knows exactly what he or she is doing and if someone does purchase this vehicle from the eBay auction they will have the opportunity to be the first owner.

I wouldn't assume anyone on eBay knows what they're doing. Or sometimes what they're actually doing isn't fully represented. I remember a few months back a dealer listed a GT350 on eBay as a GT350R. On the window sticker it has an R symbol for registered trademark. They thought they were selling an actual R.

 

[ddub68]

Maybe I missed something here but I do not recall mentioning that the sale may already be compete?:shrug:

Pretty hard to complete a sale of a vehicle when it has not even been assembled let alone without an MCO being issued for the vehicle in question which normally is then sent off to the state DMV at the time of purchase.

Subject to anyone paying the crazy amount that this seller is asking for I suggest that the paperwork would be just a formality for the person purchasing this vehicle.

:cheers:

Oops. Sorry. That wasn't you. :doh:
I remember someone saying they had completed the sale and had already begun making payments before receiving their car.

 

[PP0001]

I wouldn't assume anyone on eBay knows what they're doing. Or sometimes what they're actually doing isn't fully represented. I remember a few months back a dealer listed a GT350 on eBay as a GT350R. On the window sticker it has an R symbol for registered trademark. They thought they were selling an actual R.

Look, anyone that is going to pay ~$180K or any other crazy ADM for this car will obviously do their due diligence prior to purchasing this car.

I certainly have no idea who the seller is on this car is (100% sellers feedback BTW) but not everyone is as ignorant/uninformed or trys to misrepresent a car as you suggest.

At the end of the day if this car sells it will probably not sell on eBay but the transaction will take place away from eBay and any potential buyer will be totally comfortable before he/she pulls the trigger. A very simple process that you seem to want to complicate for some reason?

:headbonk:

 

[geb78]

Look, anyone that is going to pay ~$180K or any other crazy ADM for this car will obviously do their due diligence prior to purchasing this car.

I certainly have no idea who the seller is on this car is (100% sellers feedback BTW) but not everyone is as ignorant/uninformed or trys to misrepresent a car as you suggest.

At the end of the day if this car sells it will probably not sell on eBay but the transaction will take place away from eBay and any potential buyer will be totally comfortable before he/she pulls the trigger. A very simple process that you seem to want to complicate for some reason?

:headbonk:

We're all just assuming so many variables. You miss my point that people can mistakingly misrepresent something. To me there's nothing simple about it. The dealer has an agreement with that seller. Unless the whole arrangement is all locked down with the dealer (which is possible). I just know what my dealer would do in this scenario. I'd walk in with the new buyer and they'd say sorry, the vehicle is going to the next guy on the waiting list. Or they'd put it back up for sale knowing how much more profit they could make.

 

[PP0001]

We're all just assuming so many variables. You miss my point that people can mistakingly misrepresent something. To me there's nothing simple about it. The dealer has an agreement with that seller. Unless the whole arrangement is all locked down with the dealer (which is possible). I just know what my dealer would do in this scenario. I'd walk in with the new buyer and they'd say sorry, the vehicle is going to the next guy on the waiting list. Or they'd put it back up for sale knowing how much more profit they could make.

I agree that there are a lot assumptions by everyone including yourself. You certainly are assuming that this person can mistakingly misrepresent this car, that he has no deal locked down with his dealership and that his dealership would react the same way in which your dealership would?

For this person to ask for $180K for this R model I suggest that he has established an agreed purchase price with his dealership and has agreed to an ADM price for this car and that his dealership has transparency to this eBay deal.

His eBay listing is very clear with respect to the winner of the auction being able to purchase the car directly through him and his dealership with the winner being the first owner of record. Pretty straight forward to me!

I suggest that we agree to disagree as to the intent of this individual.

:cheers:

 

[stanglife]

Ordered late 2015....pfft

 

[JRoman]

Bid is up to 100k with just over 2 days left on the auction. I would guess the reserve is set around 120-130k. I still think the auction closes with final bid under 105k but its getting interesting.

 

[PP0001]

Bis is up to 100k with just over 2 days left on the auction. I would guess the reserve is set around 120-130k. I still think the auction closes with final bid under 105k but its getting interesting.

With ~136 watchers viewing this auction the last couple of hours and even minutes on Thursday afternoon could be very interesting and suggest that the high bid will exceed $105K when the auction expires.

Without a buyers premium many may think that buying this car is a great deal!

You could be bang on with respect to the reserve but I have a hard time imagining letting the car go at ~$125K when he had the buy it now of $180K earlier but then again the seller may be motivated and you may have the magic number!;)

 

[eric n]

100K+ RIGHT NOW! Gazinga

 

[stanglife]

"Available the 1st of April" Doesn't raise any red flags for anyone?

One hell of an April Fools joke, if you ask me.

 

[PP0001]

Bis is up to 100k with just over 2 days left on the auction. I would guess the reserve is set around 120-130k. I still think the auction closes with final bid under 105k but its getting interesting.

Looks like the owner has taken off the BIN price of $180,000 and made this a highest bid auction subject to his reserve whatever that may be?

Bidding is now up to $115,000 and still over a day to go.:eyebulge:

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