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[Burnin4]

.....just install and have 100+ more HP.

eh, it's more like 50whp more, but 25-30tq less, boost being equal (VMP TVS). My auto TVS on a 79mm pulley puts down 625/535, most 3.75 auto Whipple's are around 650/500. Regardless off all the massive scientific engineering that went into constructing the greatest blower of all, I've yet to see a 3.75 (11psi) whipple setup out trap my TVS on the same boost (134+), and I have cats, 93 octane, on 20's. Not trying to keep trading jabs but your sales pitch needs to be updated.

btw, everything is plug-N-play on the VMP kit, cost $1000 less then the equivalent Whipple kit, and goes as fast/faster on 11psi'ish boost, (pump gas). Whipple is definitely stronger and more efficient at higher boost level, down right monster on e85/race gas, it's prettier/sexier, and sounds better, but it's not like it's in a whole new league.

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[ADV1_GTCS]

With my whipple running 10psi or so, and just a catback. The whine is literally ALL I hear under WOT. It's awesome. Outside of the car, people hear me coming for sure.

I was on the same boat, I even called Whipple to ask if it should be so quiet. lol

Every Eaton i have had before would whine like crazy, so I was surprised of how quiet the Whipple was. WOT, you can hear it big time as you are in a death grip on the shifter and steering wheel from the warp speed.



Whipple FTW

 

[jasonstang]

Roush is a root and whipple is a twin-screw. Twin-screw is louder.

 

[jasonstang]

eh, it's more like 50whp more, but 25-30tq less, boost being equal (VMP TVS). My auto TVS on a 79mm pulley puts down 625/535, most 3.75 auto Whipple's are around 650/500. Regardless off all the massive scientific engineering that went into constructing the greatest blower of all, I've yet to see a 3.75 (11psi) whipple setup out trap my TVS on the same boost (134+), and I have cats, 93 octane, on 20's. Not trying to keep trading jabs but your sales pitch needs to be updated.

btw, everything is plug-N-play on the VMP kit, cost $1000 less then the equivalent Whipple kit, and goes as fast/faster on 11psi'ish boost, (pump gas). Whipple is definitely stronger and more efficient at higher boost level, down right monster on e85/race gas, it's prettier/sexier, and sounds better, but it's not like it's in a whole new league.

Way to be a dick. He clearly meant 100hp+ more than stock.

 

[Burnin4]

Way to be a dick. He clearly meant 100hp+ more than stock.

Wrong. Whipple was claiming that their kit makes 100hp more then the Roush/TVS style blowers, which isn't true. Any blower kit is going to add 200-250+whp over stock. I'm just tired of Whipple claiming how superior their kit is over all other blowers on the market. I've been patiently waiting for one of these 650-700whp Whipple kits to outrun my little ol "inferior" TVS. Whipple is doing an excellent job selling lots of kits with huge dynojet #'s but so far they can't support any of their superiority claims.

I believe the potential is there, but until we start seeing real world results then I'm going to keep correcting all of the misinformation being spread

 

[sonic]

Seems like the big 3 all support the whipple for their choices on the factory "race" cars

 

[Higgs Boson]

Wrong. Whipple was claiming that their kit makes 100hp more then the Roush/TVS style blowers, which isn't true. Any blower kit is going to add 200-250+whp over stock. I'm just tired of Whipple claiming how superior their kit is over all other blowers on the market. I've been patiently waiting for one of these 650-700whp Whipple kits to outrun my little ol "inferior" TVS. Whipple is doing an excellent job selling lots of kits with huge dynojet #'s but so far they can't support any of their superiority claims.

I believe the potential is there, but until we start seeing real world results then I'm going to keep correcting all of the misinformation being spread

#1 Rule to selling more:
Tell everyone your product is pretty good, really the same as all the other stuff out there.

 

[Whipple SC]

Wrong. Whipple was claiming that their kit makes 100hp more then the Roush/TVS style blowers, which isn't true. Any blower kit is going to add 200-250+whp over stock. I'm just tired of Whipple claiming how superior their kit is over all other blowers on the market. I've been patiently waiting for one of these 650-700whp Whipple kits to outrun my little ol "inferior" TVS. Whipple is doing an excellent job selling lots of kits with huge dynojet #'s but so far they can't support any of their superiority claims.

I believe the potential is there, but until we start seeing real world results then I'm going to keep correcting all of the misinformation being spread

You are clearly mistaken. There is a "kit" and "potential". Our "kit" makes over 100hp more than Roush's "kit". 670hp vs 800hp on 93 octane. That's emissions legal, bolt on in your garage kits. The tools are also there for even more power with ease.

Anybody who thinks a smaller sc, smaller less efficient intercooler, smaller inlet, smaller more restrictive manifold somehow equals more power is not clear of mind.

Do you really think GM, Ford or Dodge wouldn't have used there lower priced, production ready kits that they had at their disposal all with 2.3 liter superchargers? They tried, didn't work. Ford had the Roush kit that they offer, dodge had the Hellcat SC and GM had the LS9 sc.

There is zero incorrect with our statements. As for drag numbers, if we wanted to chase drag numbers we would. Watson, Lehal, American Muscle all already run extremely quick. There's a few Cobra Jets running pretty well too.

How about them dyno numbers, is it just magic that it all comes together on a dyno and not in real world? I'll give you a hint, it's not magic, it's just the superiority of the product. Does that mean a TVS doesn't work? Nope not at all, it's a great sc, but it's certainly not a screw compressor and it's definitely not a Whipple.

 

[sonic]

Well that about sums it up^^

 

[Whipple SC]

eh, it's more like 50whp more, but 25-30tq less, boost being equal (VMP TVS). My auto TVS on a 79mm pulley puts down 625/535, most 3.75 auto Whipple's are around 650/500. Regardless off all the massive scientific engineering that went into constructing the greatest blower of all, I've yet to see a 3.75 (11psi) whipple setup out trap my TVS on the same boost (134+), and I have cats, 93 octane, on 20's. Not trying to keep trading jabs but your sales pitch needs to be updated.

btw, everything is plug-N-play on the VMP kit, cost $1000 less then the equivalent Whipple kit, and goes as fast/faster on 11psi'ish boost, (pump gas). Whipple is definitely stronger and more efficient at higher boost level, down right monster on e85/race gas, it's prettier/sexier, and sounds better, but it's not like it's in a whole new league.

VMP is not emissions legal, in any state. It is not CARB complaint for California, for the other 49 states, it violates EPA law. If you are driving around on a public road with a registered vehicle in the US, you are actually committing a crime according to the clean air act, FYI. Every part of that system is considered a defeat device since it defeats federal emissions. It's amazing the difference in price, time and power when you actually doing something legal.

 

[Burnin4]

Seems like the big 3 all support the whipple for their choices on the factory "race" cars

No doubt, Whipple has a well decorated history, make great products, I had a 2.9 on my 12 GT500. My beef is only with all their claims of drastic superiority over all other blower kits for 15+ GT's. They've pumped out a lot of hype about how their competitive advantages have allowed them to make a product that is leaps and bounds above a Roush or TVS. I'm positive they make a quality kit, but I question the correlation between their dyno numbers versus dragstrip mph, not concerned with et. MPH is true whp. I just find it strange that there are zero high performing whipple'd 15's+ and almost every thread is about how huge the dyno #'s are.

 

[sonic]

Last I checked Watson racing was holding the record with the whipple well over 150 mph?

 

[Burnin4]

VMP is not emissions legal, in any state. It is not CARB complaint for California, for the other 49 states, it violates EPA law. If you are driving around on a public road with a registered vehicle in the US, you are actually committing a crime according to the clean air act, FYI. Every part of that system is considered a defeat device since it defeats federal emissions. It's amazing the difference in price, time and power when you actually doing something legal.

I will give you credit for all of those benefits, those aspects of your kit are valuable to a portion of buyers. However, I'd wager that 50% or more of buyers are going catless on their exhaust and don't care about any kind of emissions.

 

[Burnin4]

Last I checked Watson racing was holding the record with the whipple well over 150 mph?

^last time I checked, the last 3 Whipple'd 15 GT owners that put down 650whp+ that are running the supplied magical tune from Whipple are trapping 127mph on the 3.625 pulley (almost 13psi).

Im trapping 7mph higher on less boost on 20's, with cats, putting down less dyno #'s then any whipple on the site. I'm just sayin...

 

[sonic]

^last time I checked, the last 3 Whipple'd 15 GT owners that put down 650whp+ are trapping 127mph on the 3.625 pulley (almost 13psi).



Im trapping 7mph higher on less boost on 20's, with cats, putting down less dyno #'s then any whipple on the site. I'm just sayin...

What was you time?

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