Procharger Stage 2 Install

[gqneon]

Well I got my car back today. Makes great power, the race valve sounds fricking awesome, the D1SC is exactly the supercharger sound I always wanted. Never driven a centri/turbo car with a race clutch, so I'm having to relearn how to drive normally lol. MGW is amazing, McLeod clutch is so friggin light, I think I'm going to take the pedal spring out and see if that feels better. The clutch otherwise is fantastic. This is a helluva machine.

But man, I hope ProCharger works on their customer outreach. It's no big deal? You've got all of these systems out there, all of these paying customers, but you won't spend $100 to get the squeaky wheels taken care of? Ok... Wonder what it's going to cost you in sales when people read that you couldn't care less about customers that you've already taken money from. I mean, FWIW, Rev Auto seems to think your customer service is great. I think it's garbage I needed to pay $200 to have the stock inlet replaced so it wouldn't collapse.

FWIW, Rev Auto's solution was great - the new piping they fabbed up looks awesome and relocates the BOV to the bottom of the intercooler on the driver side. At the same time, the inlet tube is now solid plastic. They also ditched a couple of the garbage clamps that come with the kit for T-Bolt clamps since they blew off in testing.

Peak power numbers: 708rwhp/558rwtq STD @ 13PSI on a Dynojet. I'll upload the graph tomorrow.

To those who are curious: I stopped making power at 6800RPM coming up on 14PSI. Looking like the stock air filter can't keep up at that power level? Not sure. Any input Process?

Also I have the surging issue even with a custom dyno tune. Good news, though, is that there's likely a solution coming late next week or so... Stay tuned.

This is great news man, congrats! I want to ride in that beast now lol. My MGW shifter ships in this batch on Monday, I'm stoked. I lost track, was that your car with the waste gate and BOV?

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[Chummel]

Well I got my car back today. Makes great power, the race valve sounds fricking awesome, the D1SC is exactly the supercharger sound I always wanted. Never driven a centri/turbo car with a race clutch, so I'm having to relearn how to drive normally lol. MGW is amazing, McLeod clutch is so friggin light, I think I'm going to take the pedal spring out and see if that feels better. The clutch otherwise is fantastic. This is a helluva machine.

But man, I hope ProCharger works on their customer outreach. It's no big deal? You've got all of these systems out there, all of these paying customers, but you won't spend $100 to get the squeaky wheels taken care of? Ok... Wonder what it's going to cost you in sales when people read that you couldn't care less about customers that you've already taken money from. I mean, FWIW, Rev Auto seems to think your customer service is great. I think it's garbage I needed to pay $200 to have the stock inlet replaced so it wouldn't collapse.

FWIW, Rev Auto's solution was great - the new piping they fabbed up looks awesome and relocates the BOV to the bottom of the intercooler on the driver side. At the same time, the inlet tube is now solid plastic. They also ditched a couple of the garbage clamps that come with the kit for T-Bolt clamps since they blew off in testing.

Peak power numbers: 708rwhp/558rwtq STD @ 13PSI on a Dynojet. I'll upload the graph tomorrow.

To those who are curious: I stopped making power at 6800RPM coming up on 14PSI. Looking like the stock air filter can't keep up at that power level? Not sure. Any input Process?

Also I have the surging issue even with a custom dyno tune. Good news, though, is that there's likely a solution coming late next week or so... Stay tuned.

Congrats! You've made me hopeful for some big numbers from my kit next week. I'm just hoping to break into the 600 range though. What fuel are you on?

 

[Barrel]

No waste gate, I think that was a shop car. 93 pump gas. We were initially hesitant on 13psi with pump fuel but I think that's because the car was struggling to make power because of the inlet tube failing.

 

[Phils15GT]

No waste gate, I think that was a shop car. 93 pump gas. We were initially hesitant on 13psi with pump fuel but I think that's because the car was struggling to make power because of the inlet tube failing.

Car seems to be making great power. Manual? How does it hook? I am hoping to come close to those numbers. Probably wont go back to dyno anytime soon when the car gets back up and running. The track will be the first place I take it when its finally running good. I should have the new throttle body elbow today. Just have to wait for lund to send me new tune. On Tuesday he said it will be a while before I get tune, busy I guess.

Will not get a remote tune ever again. Will go tune on a dyno. In and out the same day.

 

[Nemesys]

Will not get a remote tune ever again. Will go tune on a dyno. In and out the same day.

Out of curiosity , why? Ive actually enjoyed my remote tuning experience.

 

[gqneon]

Out of curiosity , why? Ive actually enjoyed my remote tuning experience.

Waiting several days or a week with your car out of commission depending on their availability and no real hands on tuner assessment for drivability issues etc. All they see is logs, no real feel for the car or what it feels like or any correlation to the power output. Tons of negatives.

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[Phils15GT]

Nothing wrong with the tune itself. Just don't care for the process, takes too long. I enjoy the 3rd gear pulls on the highway but gets risky after doing it 10 times. I would rather have the car on a dyno and have the tuner there to tune it.

 

[Nemesys]

Ah I can understand that. I had a very different experience. :( Glad everyones cars getting taken care of though for the most part.

 

[Barrel]

Car seems to be making great power. Manual? How does it hook? I am hoping to come close to those numbers. Probably wont go back to dyno anytime soon when the car gets back up and running. The track will be the first place I take it when its finally running good. I should have the new throttle body elbow today. Just have to wait for lund to send me new tune. On Tuesday he said it will be a while before I get tune, busy I guess.

Will not get a remote tune ever again. Will go tune on a dyno. In and out the same day.

Yeah I always knew that I would do a dyno tune once I found a shop I liked. Adam at Rev has been really good - but since I was the first PC'ed 15 he's spent a lot of hours modifying the tune so it's been a slow process. The car was there for over 6 weeks as they tweaked this and that. I will say that after driving the car in traffic to work this morning the surging really affects the way I drive. It's right at the sweet spot that I normally shift so it's taking some readjusting. Hopefully that'll be resolved soon. When rolling into it at part throttle you hit a wall right at the edge of vac/boost until you give it more and then it's like warp drive.

I have 315 MPSS out back and they stick pretty good and only start losing traction near redline in second. First obviously is your burnout gear lol. This is my first really fast car, so I've not yet explored the full potential but I'm sure it won't take me long. The BOV sound is intoxicating and the way the power comes on is what I wanted with the exception of the vac/boost threshold. Very controllable.

This car is nothing like the one I dropped off at the shop - it's going to be a fun summer.

 

[Nemesys]

To add to the surging convo, mine is really tolerable. Im either not in boost driving around normally which is perfect, that threshold before hitting boost in a high gear under load where I might see a hint of surge, and then when the valve shuts and gets quiet under the hood and youre about to hit warp drive lolol.

 

[ProChargerTECH]

lol I love the fact that PC blames things on improper install when a ton of people have shown photos even installs from shops showing the Race valve pushing against the inlet.

If the valve is pushing on the inlet tube, that is improperly installed.
With more trimming and trial and error fitting, it will fit.
I showed an image of it installed without pushing on the inlet.

You called in,We saw your video,
We sent you out a part, your rocking and rolling now!
Thats customer service!

Well I got my car back today. Makes great power, the race valve sounds fricking awesome, the D1SC is exactly the supercharger sound I always wanted.

Now THIS rocks.

But man, I hope ProCharger works on their customer outreach. It's no big deal? You've got all of these systems out there, all of these paying customers, but you won't spend $100 to get the squeaky wheels taken care of?

We have no issues taking care of those random cases here and there.

By all means, if a person has an issue, I/We want them taken care of.

All I was stating is that there is NO reason to retrofit the loads and loads and loads of kits out there, that have no issues.

, Rev Auto seems to think your customer service is great. I think it's garbage I needed to pay $200 to have the stock inlet replaced so it wouldn't collapse.

Our customer service is some of the best in the industry.
We have a killer phone staff, emails all day, fast tune turn arounds.
We are here on the forums, we support our amazing dealers, etc.

Did you contact our customer service before spending the $200?
If you don't contact us, we can't help. :(

They also ditched a couple of the garbage clamps that come with the kit for T-Bolt clamps since they blew off in testing.

Worm clamps are actually stronger then T-bolts when properly installed.
Even AMS performance took the time to do a write up on this.

http://www.amsperformance.com/attachments/article/72/Worm_Gear_Clamp.pdf

Peak power numbers: 708rwhp/558rwtq STD @ 13PSI on a Dynojet. I'll upload the graph tomorrow.

Killer power numbers on low boost. :cheers:

 

[ProChargerTECH]

To add to the surging convo, mine is really tolerable. Im either not in boost driving around normally which is perfect, that threshold before hitting boost in a high gear under load where I might see a hint of surge, and then when the valve shuts and gets quiet under the hood and youre about to hit warp drive lolol.

All goes quiet right before this....

 

[Pony15]

Worm clamps are actually stronger then T-bolts when properly installed.
Even AMS performance took the time to do a write up on this.

http://www.amsperformance.com/attachments/article/72/Worm_Gear_Clamp.pdf

Thanks great info

 

[ProChargerTECH]

Thanks great info

We include T-bolts in some kits for "cosmetic" reasons.
However would always prefer the worm clamps for all the reasons AMS listed.

 

[z06psi]

The clamping "force" of a threaded bolt is always greater than a slipping screw system with sheet metal. Why do you think people replace them and then no longer have issues blowing off connections. AMS points out only one aspect. Real life points to a different picture. This will be my 3rd "piped" car and wouldn't use anything other than t-bolt or constant torque t-bolt.

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