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Hi all, dropping this in the general forums because not really sure if it fit in the tech or builds section. If this is incorrect, feel free to berate me to your hearts desire!

After much deliberation (and the recent EPA shenanigans with the big tuning shops) I decided to get the Ford PP2 for my 2016 GT Premium. Up until this point, the only other mod on my 'Stang was a Corsa Extreme Cat-Back system that the previous owner had installed in 2017, and then a Roush rear Valance so I could replace the dual tips with quads just this past winter.

S/O to Greg @BLUE DEVIL for hooking me up with the unopened PP2, as well as an Air Raid filter and strut tower braces! Much preferred to deal locally in cash than with the websites. Lucky me!

Did the job on my uncle's driveway who has owned and operated his own tow and repair business for almost 30 years. He was originally a sales rep for Snap-On Tools, so he has an at-home tool arsenal a plebeian could only dream of. By the time I pulled into his driveway, popped the hood, and got all the new parts out of the back, he had already removed the stock airbox and was getting busy on the throttle body. We worked so quick that this was only the "progress" photo I managed to take.

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Go figure, the moment I captured was his first attempt at removing the sound tube from the firewall and.... SWEET JESUS, there had better be a 10th circle of hell added just for the monster that designed this component. As if the damn engine isn't loud enough at stock, here is this plastic tubing installed all the way behind the engine where only a person with spaghetti noodles for arms could reach. ANYWAY, some other general install notes:

- Cutting and rearranging the evac hoses to reattach to the new intake tube was not spelled out or shown well in the instructions at all. Would have never figured out without spending an hour roaming youtube.

- Installing the new intake assembly is a helluva lot easier if you disassemble it down to it's 3 main pieces (bottom of airbox goes first, then intake tube, then top part of airbox). That being said, I'm not totally sure if we got the rubber shroud installed correctly around the air inlet behind the grille. If I reach down through the airbox, there is a spot where I can fit my fingers between the rubber shroud and the outside of the inlet, and another spot where I have to push the rubber out from inside the inlet. Not sure how critical this is so long as the top of the box is sealed up against the hood. The inlet is still sucking from straight forward behind the grille with our without the shroud being flush around it. What do you guys think, disassemble and make sure it's on correctly now that I have a better understanding of how its supposed to fit? I would love for it to be *perfect* but I can't imagine it makes much of a difference to be slightly off.

Results: Excellent.

Definitely feel the extra kick down low. Lighting up the rears with ease when rolling out from idle without dumping the clutch. Took a road trip up to Lake Geneva WI last weekend and it was an absolute animal on the country lanes up there. My favorite feature is probably the new throttle mapping though. Obviously the response feels sharper, but the revs don't feel like they hang the same way they used to (although not a like a mechanical throttle cable). It's made my shifting smoother in civilized driving. Absolutely love it.

Next project is going to be a shifter replacement. I know it has been addressed to a great deal previously on these forums, but I'll offer it up again for input: What is everyone's thoughts on Barton Vs. MGW? The general vibe I've gotten from around here is that the MGW were historically the better units, but the Hybrid 3 has made it about equal and a matter of personal preference. Personally I'm leaning towards a Barton with a flat stick because I am an absolute sucker for skinny post with a classic shift ball on top. Still, I'm curious what everyone's thoughts are on the matter, as well as the situation with the air inlet.

-Vince
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I installed the Ford Performance shifter on my 20 GT. I really like it. I also have the power pack upgrade and have been very happy with it.
 

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“ attempt at removing the sound tube from the firewall and.... SWEET JESUS, there had better be a 10th circle of hell added just for the monster that designed this component.”
LMAO… 😂 Well, if you liked THAT, wait until you replace your cabin air filter the first time….🤯
 

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Let’s see the after pictures and total cost please.
 
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LMAO… 😂 Well, if you liked THAT, wait until you replace your cabin air filter the first time….🤯
Have indeed read about this. Would rather choke on my own filth than do that job.
 

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Let’s see the after pictures and total cost please.
Will get a shot of it when I have the chance. My full cost was $760 for the PP2 and the other parts. As I mentioned, I found someone locally who was willing to part ways with the PP2 for the list price on CJ Pony parts, so I didn't have to deal with tax/shipping. So $725 for the PP2, $35 for everything else.
 

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Congrats!

I installed mine few weeks ago. Had to google the hose cutting myself as well but because I had to do that I found a no notch engine cover mod here on the forums so win win.

I love it so far, have not tried the no lift shift yet but the power is very noticable. Well worth the price I paid ($650 i think). I'm getting the carb sticker laminated before I stick it somewhere. Carb is very important here haha.

My next major mod will also be the shifter!

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Congrats!

I installed mine few weeks ago. Had to google the hose cutting myself as well but because I had to do that I found a no notch engine cover mod here on the forums so win win.

I love it so far, have not tried the no lift shift yet but the power is very noticable. Well worth the price I paid ($650 i think). I'm getting the carb sticker laminated before I stick it somewhere. Carb is very important here haha.

My next major mod will also be the shifter!
Nice! below is my finished product. Steam clean is high on my list at the moment.

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Congrats!

I installed mine few weeks ago. Had to google the hose cutting myself as well but because I had to do that I found a no notch engine cover mod here on the forums so win win.

I love it so far, have not tried the no lift shift yet but the power is very noticable. Well worth the price I paid ($650 i think). I'm getting the carb sticker laminated before I stick it somewhere. Carb is very important here haha.

My next major mod will also be the shifter!

Responding again, because multiple pictures in one message was murdering my computer. I'm surprised at how much bang for your buck the Ford Performance kit was. I've only really started comparing the prices/horsepower on other kits since I finished the install, and was amazed how many CAI & Tune kits got less power for the same money*. I wouldn't have expected that sort of value from OEM quality gear. Only real competitor to me seemed like the JLT or VMP, Which while they seem like great units, don't provide any more HP for about the same cost, let alone maintain your factory warranty.

*Or in the case of the Roush Power Pac, half as much power for $100 more.
 

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Responding again, because multiple pictures in one message was murdering my computer. I'm surprised at how much bang for your buck the Ford Performance kit was. I've only really started comparing the prices/horsepower on other kits since I finished the install, and was amazed how many CAI & Tune kits got less power for the same money*. I wouldn't have expected that sort of value from OEM quality gear. Only real competitor to me seemed like the JLT or VMP, Which while they seem like great units, don't provide any more HP for about the same cost, let alone maintain your factory warranty.

*Or in the case of the Roush Power Pac, half as much power for $100 more.
Yeah I agree, I was worried it wouldnt work on 91 gas but so far havent had any problems. That blue filter does look cool! After my paper one wears out I will replace it with a fancy one.
 

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- Installing the new intake assembly is a helluva lot easier if you disassemble it down to it's 3 main pieces (bottom of airbox goes first, then intake tube, then top part of airbox). That being said, I'm not totally sure if we got the rubber shroud installed correctly around the air inlet behind the grille. If I reach down through the airbox, there is a spot where I can fit my fingers between the rubber shroud and the outside of the inlet, and another spot where I have to push the rubber out from inside the inlet. Not sure how critical this is so long as the top of the box is sealed up against the hood. The inlet is still sucking from straight forward behind the grille with our without the shroud being flush around it. What do you guys think, disassemble and make sure it's on correctly now that I have a better understanding of how its supposed to fit? I would love for it to be *perfect* but I can't imagine it makes much of a difference to be slightly off.

-Vince
The GT350 air inlet is actually smaller than the opening for it on the grill wall. That is why they ask you to cut the rubber snorkel to help it fit the opening. So yes, you can feel the rubber flap and put your fingers through the front of it.

Here is what I did a while later. Can't say I am real proud it, but till I have more time to come up with another solution it will work.

I cut the first 4-5" off the stock opening off the original intake box and slid it over the GT 350 opening. It is a real tight fit and the rubber around the GT intake split a little. In hindsight I would have heated it some to make it more pliable. You can see where I originally cut the smaller GT350 opening (per the instructions) at the bottom of snorkel. It is now encased by the bigger standard intake.

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I than used 200MPH tape, i.e. Guerrilla Tape to seal it up.

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Now this is what it looks like from the top side with the radiator shroud removed. The front of the snorkel fits flush over the front opening, just like the original intake.

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Does it help, IDK. But I like the cleaner air flow and feel like it might have a little more of a ram air flow like the stock intake.
 
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I don't see the filter cover installed, it will help to shed water coming in through the hood vents from soaking into the filter. Should help protect the filter and keep excess moisture from getting into the intake system. Some guys say they don't experience that, but I can't believe it doesn't happen. Hope the PP2 is everything you expected. Definitely one of the best bang for your buck mods!
 
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The GT350 air inlet is actually smaller than the opening for it on the grill wall. That is why they ask you to cut the rubber snorkel to help it fit the opening. So yes, you can feel the rubber flap and put your fingers through the front of it.

Here is what I did a while later. Can't say I am real proud it, but till I have more time to come up with another solution it will work.

I cut the first 4-5" off the stock opening off the original intake box and slid it over the GT 350 opening. It is a real tight fit and the rubber around the GT intake split a little. In hindsight I would have heated it some to make it more pliable. You can see where I originally cut the smaller GT350 opening (per the instructions) at the bottom of snorkel. It is now encased by the bigger standard intake.

IMG_0104.jpg


I than used 200MPH tape, i.e. Guerrilla Tape to seal it up.

IMG_0105.jpg


Now this is what it looks like from the top side with the radiator shroud removed. The front of the snorkel fits flush over the front opening, just like the original intake.

IMG_0143 (1).jpg


Does it help, IDK. But I like the cleaner air flow and feel like it might have a little more of a ram air flow like the stock intake.
Interesting stuff. Removing that cover above the radiator alone seems like it would make the project much more doable.
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