PP Worth It!?

[Aarron_M]

Not buying this for a second. The brembos will not stop you any faster, it's where the rubber meets the road that stops you. The brembos have a higher thermal capacity, and thus are capable of stopping you better on repeated stress, like say, on a track. For street use, I seriously doubt that the brembos can stop the car any faster than stock gt brakes. After 6 or 10 high speed stops, IN A ROW, then yes, brembos will have the advantage.

Have you driven the GT/PP and actually tested this theory of yours? The initial bite on the Brembo's is ridiculous.

You don't need to believe it for it to be true.

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[Lost]

Have you driven the GT/PP and actually tested this theory of yours? The initial bite on the Brembo's is ridiculous.

You don't need to believe it for it to be true.

I have. But now you're talking about pedal feel/response. I know the initial bite is stronger. But that does not mean the car will actually physically stop quicker. The dynamics of that equation (assuming not thermally limited) lie solely on the friction of the tires with the road.

 

[wireeater]

Not buying this for a second. The brembos will not stop you any faster, it's where the rubber meets the road that stops you. The brembos have a higher thermal capacity, and thus are capable of stopping you better on repeated stress, like say, on a track. For street use, I seriously doubt that the brembos can stop the car any faster than stock gt brakes. After 6 or 10 high speed stops, IN A ROW, then yes, brembos will have the advantage.

Braking 60-0 mph:
108.5 (PP)
117.9 (Non PP)

Braking 30-0 mph:
26.7 (PP)
29.6 (Non PP)

You know... I think you're right...!!! :lol:

People. This is why you do your research before taking random peoples opinions online. Granted PP have larger rear wheels, it's not the difference here.

 

[Lost]

Braking 60-0 mph:
108.5 (PP)
117.9 (Non PP)

Braking 30-0 mph:
26.7 (PP)
29.6 (Non PP)

You know... I think you're right...!!! :lol:

People. This is why you do your research before taking random peoples opinions online. Granted PP have larger rear wheels, it's not the difference here.

Again.
TIRES! :lol::lol:

(Not brakes)

You don't suppose summer performance tire vs. all seasons MIGHT play a role here?

 

[JohnBoyNC]

For the price and what you get....go for it.

 

[Aarron_M]

Again.
TIRES! :lol::lol:

(Not brakes)

You don't suppose summer performance tire vs. all seasons MIGHT play a role here?

So what you're saying is...put the PP tires on the non-PP car, and you'll have the same exact stopping distance, right?

Isn't that argument also in favor of the PP being worth it?

 

[Jdenkevitz]

Not buying this for a second. The brembos will not stop you any faster, it's where the rubber meets the road that stops you. The brembos have a higher thermal capacity, and thus are capable of stopping you better on repeated stress, like say, on a track. For street use, I seriously doubt that the brembos can stop the car any faster than stock gt brakes. After 6 or 10 high speed stops, IN A ROW, then yes, brembos will have the advantage.

More pistons means longer pads means more stopping force. You get less pad taper as well.

 

[Voo Doo]

As Arnie would say.....Just doooo eet!! Best option by far.

 

[Lost]

So what you're saying is...put the PP tires on the non-PP car, and you'll have the same exact stopping distance, right?

Isn't that argument also in favor of the PP being worth it?

Not arguing that the PP is worth it from a performance (IMO track) perspective. It is. But I am not buying the brembos (in a STREET) situation stop the car faster. They don't. The GT brakes are perfectly adequate in street use. The brembos offer higher thermal capacity. The quicker stops is largely a function of tire grip NOT BRAKE grip. That's all. I was just putting a finer point on the statement that the brembos stop the car quicker. They don't. Performance tires and their resulting higher coefficient of friction do.

I have driven both, and since I need a high miler comfortable cruiser (new job is putting me on a 130 mile each way commute), the PP was not for me. Too firm for long drives. I do appreciate the brembos, but form follows function, and they look great filling up the 19" rims. But unless you are on a track, their function is largely not seen.

 

[whatsup62]

I already told him, no matter what, it has to be black and it has to be manual. The rest, I'm up in the air about.

That was what I told them as well.
Depends on what you are going to do with the car.
I got a base GT PP car with Recaros because my plan was in my sig.
I have 44k into the car now and it out runs 70K Hellcats consistently.

 

[BmacIL]

So what you're saying is...put the PP tires on the non-PP car, and you'll have the same exact stopping distance, right?

Isn't that argument also in favor of the PP being worth it?

It might not be exactly the same, but it will be very, very close. At that point, the only big difference will be the pad friction, which might be a bit higher on the PP parts due to both area and compound. It's unlikely a non-PP with PP tires would have more than a couple percent difference in stopping distance.

Yes the PP is worth it, but on the subject of brakes, people often speak from points that they don't have all the facts. Feel is different than stopping power, as is fade resistance. The Brembos are better on both of those points than the non-PP 14" brakes. You can stop mighty fast with a 14" rotor, but the tires are the most significant difference in stopping distance.

 

[ScottsGT]

Didn't read everyone's responses, just posting my own reasoning.

I DID NOT get the Performance Pack for two reasons. I wanted a spare tire. I daily drive my car to work or off to he beach.. I'm old school and change my spare on the side of the road if need be. I'm not content waiting on a roadside wrecker to tow me to a tire store.

Second, I don't like black wheels.

I'm very happy with my decision, especially after a set of Steeda Progressives.
Is it worth it? For the value of what you get, hell yes! Just make sure you can live with the gearing and no spare tire.

 

[ForTehNguyen]

cant imagine how badly a base GT with 235 square all seasons would plow

 

[BmacIL]

cant imagine how badly a base GT with 235 square all seasons would plow

It's bad.
I did an autocross about a month after owning the car, bone stock, and was pretty disappointed. I took home a PP car for a night a day later, was thoroughly impressed, and promptly ordered and installed many of the PP chassis and suspension parts that make a big difference.

 

[16 GT MM/Auto]

PP is definitely worth it if:

• you're going to use it (AutoX, etc.)
• it's a DD and you live in a warm climate (otherwise, A/S or snows will have to be purchased)

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