Phasing out

[Trackaholic]

I think Ford wanted to phase out the V6 but kept it at the last minute. They are pushing the EB4, which is why there isn't a premium V6 version available.

The V8 is a tougher question. At some point it will also go away. Most likely will be replaced by an EB6. Hopefully Ford will mange to keep it around for those of us who prefer a naturally aspirated engine, even if it is just an less publicized option (sort of like the V6 today).

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[steviebee72]

well about the V8 . we all love it. but i think your most likely right, it might not be around forever. about that EB6 tho, i just traded in my f150 ecoboost v6 for my stang. i think ford is going to learn from the success they had with the f-150 and the eb6 and try to apply that to the Mustang. I see alot more ecoboost verses v6 mustangs.

If Ford keeps going and doing it right, our next V8 replacement will be a EB6, which we can pump up the boost with a TUNE for an easy 500HP..

But hey Ford listen to this, figure out how to make the turbo sound like a Muscle Car first.
my 2.2 cents


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[BroncosXR8]

I think that the V6 as the 'budget' motor will definitely go soon, and the EB will be the base motor just maybe in a different level of tune.

It's quite possible that the V6TT in the Ford GT will make its way into the Mustang GT with a V8 kept only in the niche models like the Shelby's. With the V8 becoming higher spec and more exotic in limited numbers, this way Ford can say they never got rid of the V8.

Something like:

EB Base model - (low tune)
EB - (high tune)
GT - V6TT
Shelby - V8 flatplane

 

[Spartan]

I think the V6 is gone soon....BUT I think they are waiting to see what Camaro does.

If their V6 is still their mid model and the Camaro 4 cylinder is the entry, then Ford will have to counter some how...maybe with the 2.7 V6 in the Mustang and then go 2.3,2.7,5.0.

I think Ford is losing a lot of customers by not offering the V6 in premium trim. If they want to push the EB then put some incentives on it but offer the V6 in premium for those that want good fuel and some nice power with an NA engine..not a turbo.

 

[Marino]

I think that the V6 as the 'budget' motor will definitely go soon, and the EB will be the base motor just maybe in a different level of tune.

It's quite possible that the V6TT in the Ford GT will make its way into the Mustang GT with a V8 kept only in the niche models like the Shelby's. With the V8 becoming higher spec and more exotic in limited numbers, this way Ford can say they never got rid of the V8.

Something like:

EB Base model - (low tune)
EB - (high tune)
GT - V6TT
Shelby - V8 flatplane

I could see that happening.

 

[JimmyTwoTimes]

I think the V6 is gone soon....BUT I think they are waiting to see what Camaro does.

If their V6 is still their mid model and the Camaro 4 cylinder is the entry, then Ford will have to counter some how...maybe with the 2.7 V6 in the Mustang and then go 2.3,2.7,5.0.

I think Ford is losing a lot of customers by not offering the V6 in premium trim. If they want to push the EB then put some incentives on it but offer the V6 in premium for those that want good fuel and some nice power with an NA engine..not a turbo.

Not gonna happen.

Ten years from now, nobody is going to offer N/A engines. It wouldn't surprise me if five years from now, there is no such thing as a naturally aspirated performance engine on the market.

I mean, look at European cars. Pretty sure I can count on one hand the number of European naturally aspirated engines that will be for sale in 2017... Audi / Lamborghini V10; Lamborghini V12; Ferrari V12; BMW 2-cylinder range extender on the i3; Mercedes / Smart inline 3. I believe that's every single naturally aspirated engine offered by a European car manufacturer which isn't being phased out.

It's only a matter of time before all automobile engines are all-forced-induction, all-the-time. The flat-plane-crank engine in the GT350 is almost certainly the last 8 cylinder naturally-aspirated passenger car engine which will ever be designed. All cars are going global, and every market but the U.S. puts a heavy penalty on CO2 emissions (we get a pass because the U.S. never signed the Kyoto Protocol). If you want to sell an engine in a foreign market, it has to be low-CO2, which basically means it has to be forced induction.

Enjoy it while you can.

 

[Rhys]

Nope. They wouldn't remove the v6 for the ecoboost. They need something to set the absolute base model. It would be cool if they had an Ecoboost v6, but then it wouldn't really be an "eco" car. It would just be a faster v6, still just as heavy on fuel!!

 

[Rhys]

I agree, with the new CAFE requirements based on a vehicles "footprint" the
writing is on the wall for cars like the 5.0L mustang. Trucks are getting hit even harder.
Take a look at the 17' Raptor's EB V6 powerplant, more power and more fuel efficient than the 6.2L it replaces.
In fact it makes about as much hp as the current S550 gt and with more torque.
I'm not saying I like it or agree with it, but change is coming and its coming soon.

Another thing to mention. Lots of people want v8s in their mustangs. They would lose a lot of customers!!

 

[Twin Turbo]

I'd love to see a 4.0 twin turbo V8 to eventually replace the Coyote. That would make an easy 475hp with better fuel economy and C02 ratings than the 5.0

Use it in the Mustang GT and a luxury RWD/AWD Lincoln coupe/sedan.

 

[Ruby305GT]

If they would have done the v6 EB on the MY15 I would have been all over it. But, it would have been way more powerful than the coyote.


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[Rhys]

I'd love to see a 4.0 twin turbo V8 to eventually replace the Coyote. That would make an easy 475hp with better fuel economy and C02 ratings than the 5.0

Use it in the Mustang GT and a luxury RWD/AWD Lincoln coupe/sedan.

Now I see why you have the name twin turbo!!!

 

[SVTFreak]

I'd love to see a 4.0 twin turbo V8 to eventually replace the Coyote. That would make an easy 475hp with better fuel economy and C02 ratings than the 5.0



Use it in the Mustang GT and a luxury RWD/AWD Lincoln coupe/sedan.

Best
Idea
Ever

 

[oilfieldtrash]

I do honestly think the 6 is going to be phased out. The ecoboost is more efficient. Forget the back and forth my engine is the bestest evar argument. It's really as simple as the ecoboost makes just as much power while being more efficient.

 

[Hack]

I'd love to see a 4.0 twin turbo V8 to eventually replace the Coyote. That would make an easy 475hp with better fuel economy and C02 ratings than the 5.0

Use it in the Mustang GT and a luxury RWD/AWD Lincoln coupe/sedan.

Right. Essentially what I was saying. You get the V8 sound with the efficiency the law is demanding. The downside for the automaker is complexity and cost.

I do honestly think the 6 is going to be phased out. The ecoboost is more efficient. Forget the back and forth my engine is the bestest evar argument. It's really as simple as the ecoboost makes just as much power while being more efficient.

It always has seemed to me that the automakers offer too many optional powertrains. It's got to cost them a lot to run all that tooling and carry all that inventory. It seems like a shorter list of options would be less expensive. I think it must be a marketing thing where they can advertise the car at a lower price and then upsell. I know car companies are large enough that they have large teams of very smart people to figure this stuff out.

 

[MagneticA]

I think Ford is losing a lot of customers by not offering the V6 in premium trim. If they want to push the EB then put some incentives on it but offer the V6 in premium for those that want good fuel and some nice power with an NA engine..not a turbo.

Not sure that Ford is losing a lot of customers, but I would agree that the v6 is losing a lot of customers.

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