Performance Pack Wheels

[S550guy]

This wheel is NOT a performance pack wheel, correct? Someone mentioned that this photo was of a performance pack car (it is the color I want ).

That is not the Performance Pack wheel. The second picture I posted is.

That is one of the "premium" 19" wheels offered on I4 and V8, but not Brembo cars.

However, they may or may not just barely fit over the Brembos on S550....

just means you'll lose some tire width in the rear.

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[Tony Alonso]

That is not the Performance Pack wheel. The second picture I posted is.

That is one of the "premium" 19" wheels offered on I4 and V8, but not Brembo cars.

However, they may or may not just barely fit over the Brembos on S550....

just means you'll lose some tire width in the rear.

I am actually a fan of these wheels, which I would love to see on the V8. I am planning on a non-performance pack car. However, I think you mentioned before that it would like be the optional performance pack wheel for the I4.

 

[S550guy]

I am actually a fan of these wheels, which I would love to see on the V8. I am planning on a non-performance pack car. However, I think you mentioned before that it would like be the optional performance pack wheel for the I4.

I like this wheel as well! Looks much better with production finish than all of our development wheels that are still rattle-can black!

Yep, that is the I4 PP wheel

 

[Tony Alonso]

I like this wheel as well! Looks much better with production finish than all of our development wheels that are still rattle-can black!

Yep, that is the I4 PP wheel

Depending on price, I might be buying these separately and mounting a set of the Pirelli all-seasons on them. I am assuming the GT traction control and driver modes would work without issue if I made this change, assuming I went with the 18" wheels as the base.

 

[Racerzx]

That is not the Performance Pack wheel. The second picture I posted is.

That is one of the "premium" 19" wheels offered on I4 and V8, but not Brembo cars.

However, they may or may not just barely fit over the Brembos on S550....

just means you'll lose some tire width in the rear.

Thanks for correcting and sorry guys if I caused some confusion. I guess not everyone that works at FRAP knows how the cars are spec'd.

I like this wheel as well! Looks much better with production finish than all of our development wheels that are still rattle-can black!

Yep, that is the I4 PP wheel

Nice! I'm happy to hear this as I much prefer those wheels anyhow.

 

[chopsui]

I'm not buying the stiffness excuse for the PP wheels. I mean, I did consider that as a factor, but when I think about it, the extra stiffness has got to be negligible. There are dozens of cars with much higher performance envelopes than a Mustang GT with 5-spoke wheels and they manage just fine. Hell even the GT500 has other wheel choices. The Boss 302s went from those ugly black multispoke wheels on the '12s to the much nicer split 5 spoke wheels on the 13's.

This all comes down to some marketing goon or designer who thinks these are the coolest looking wheel and that black wheels are in. Dammit, why didn't they just ask me first!?

 

[Twin Turbo]

Back to the initial topic: The reason why the V8 PP wheel is that mesh-looking wheel is so that the ideal wheel stiffness is delivered. Notice how the "snowflake" '13 Shelby Track Pack wheel was of similar shape, and that was the stiffest wheel I've seen (stiffer than Boss Laguna... that wheel itself pretty rigid).

Sure some of it is about styling and making it look cool with the 'mesh' look.. but it is also a lot about the functionality of the wheel.

Long story short: Stiffer wheel=better road feel/steering response and better durability

Ah, that explains the solid billet wheels on the lastest GT350 prototypes

(sorry, just messin' )

 

[Twin Turbo]

I'm not buying the stiffness excuse for the PP wheels. I mean, I did consider that as a factor, but when I think about it, the extra stiffness has got to be negligible. There are dozens of cars with much higher performance envelopes than a Mustang GT with 5-spoke wheels and they manage just fine. Hell even the GT500 has other wheel choices. The Boss 302s went from those ugly black multispoke wheels on the '12s to the much nicer split 5 spoke wheels on the 13's.

This all comes down to some marketing goon or designer who thinks these are the coolest looking wheel and that black wheels are in. Dammit, why didn't they just ask me first!?

Boss 302s kept the black multi-spokes through both '12 and '13MY........the wheels were a modern take on the Minilites used on the original '69/'70 Boss

It was the Laguna Seca that gained the 5 spokes.........but that does support your case as the LS was the more track-biased of the two.

And don't those look familiar!

 

[Grimace427]

Back to the initial topic: The reason why the V8 PP wheel is that mesh-looking wheel is so that the ideal wheel stiffness is delivered. Notice how the "snowflake" '13 Shelby Track Pack wheel was of similar shape, and that was the stiffest wheel I've seen (stiffer than Boss Laguna... that wheel itself pretty rigid).

Sure some of it is about styling and making it look cool with the 'mesh' look.. but it is also a lot about the functionality of the wheel.

Long story short: Stiffer wheel=better road feel/steering response and better durability

If you don't like it, go ask the Shelby guys how they keep these clean:

I'm not buying the stiffness excuse for the PP wheels. I mean, I did consider that as a factor, but when I think about it, the extra stiffness has got to be negligible. There are dozens of cars with much higher performance envelopes than a Mustang GT with 5-spoke wheels and they manage just fine. Hell even the GT500 has other wheel choices.

I agree stiffness has nothing to do with the wheel design as most if not all factory Mustang wheels are cast aluminum. If stiffness were the priority then they would be forged and not weigh in excess of 30 pounds like they do now.


I'm hoping the wheels on the SVT prototype we've seen are the real deal and not just some stylish cast wheels.

 

[Shark77]

I agree stiffness has nothing to do with the wheel design as most if not all factory Mustang wheels are cast aluminum. If stiffness were the priority then they would be forged and not weigh in excess of 30 pounds like they do now.

Fully agree... A passenger car is not going to overload a well constructed wheel to get it to deflect by any reasonable measure. A lot of other crap is going to fail long before its a wheel issue.

Reminds me of Sebastien Buemi's crash due to suspension failure. Watch as the wheels fly off from the car...

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[Norm Peterson]

Differences in wheel stiffness per se should have more to do with small differences in steering feel than anything else.

Wheel strength is at best loosely related to stiffness, since allowable material strength varies a lot more widely across different processes and alloys than modulus of elasticity (a basic measure of material stiffness).


Norm

 

[chopsui]

Check out the wheels on this Range Rover prototype. Look familiar?

http://www.carscoops.com/2014/03/scoop-hotter-new-range-rover-sport-rs.html

 

[S550guy]

Check out the wheels on this Range Rover prototype. Look familiar?

I don't even care that the wheels look similar... that is the coolest camouflage I have ever seen!!!

 

[gunman]

Allow 20 inch with PP

Sorry to start this forum off on a negative foot, but Ford, if you're reading this - and I know you are �� - please consider offering another wheel option for the PP. I realize looks may be in the eye of the beholder, but I don't like those busy mesh-style wheels and there's definitely no arguing that they're going to be a serious pain to clean after a track day. Give us a light weight, open spoke design. Something that looks like the 20's would be great. I'd even be willing to pay more for the privilege!

I could not agree more. I was excited to see the 20" wheels and am more than happy to add them as an option until I saw in the order guide that I have to say no to the performance pack if I do. Ford...PLEASE change this!

I have been waiting for my first Mustang and I want to order this as soon as possible.

 

[S550guy]

I could not agree more. I was excited to see the 20" wheels and am more than happy to add them as an option until I saw in the order guide that I have to say no to the performance pack if I do. Ford...PLEASE change this!

I have been waiting for my first Mustang and I want to order this as soon as possible.

Step one: Get PP GT

Step two: Get 20" wheels ordered from dealer

Step three: Install 20" wheels, send the takeoff 19" wheels my way so I can use them.

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