No lift shift on a 21 PP?

[joe603]

Just wondering if my car has this feature or not...2021 GT Premium PP. How would I know if it's working properly? Thanks!

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[EFI]

I believe all 2019 and up got it.

You have to be WOT and after 5000rpm for it to activate. You then shift without letting off the gas (clutch in, shift, clutch out) and it won't rev out like on a regular car.

 

[TrackMustang]

It’s crazy that so many people (myself included) don’t know if their car has this… you’d think it would be easy to understand, like a feature in the driver aids section how hill assist, rev match etc are done.

 

[Schwerin]

Only the Mach1 has NLS. Every 2019+ has Rev Matching.

 

[theruleslawyer]

Such a weird mix of answers if you look into this.

• 2018 official marketing materials list NLS as standard on all manual mustangs
• Several people mention it being part of a PP tune.
• Several other people talking about it being something you can turn on with a tune.
• I found one guy doing NLS in a 2021 GT pp1

So maybe?

 

[Semp1]

If you look at the original 2018 manual “no lift shift” is included. But here’s the thing. I would never do it just due to the fact that 1. There’s no reason to and 2. The MT82 shift forks probably can’t handle that type of abuse at WOT regardless of whether ford improved them mid year 2019.

 

[AMC401V8]

If you look at the original 2018 manual “no lift shift” is included. But here’s the thing. I would never do it just due to the fact that 1. There’s no reason to and 2. The MT82 shift forks probably can’t handle that type of abuse at WOT regardless of whether ford improved them mid year 2019.

What specifically about the MT82 shift forks makes you think they would have a difficult time handling this?

 

[Schwerin]

Such a weird mix of answers if you look into this.

• 2018 official marketing materials list NLS as standard on all manual mustangs
• Several people mention it being part of a PP tune.
• Several other people talking about it being something you can turn on with a tune.
• I found one guy doing NLS in a 2021 GT pp1

So maybe?

18+Marketing is known for being wrong. It also said Rev matching which is 19+ only.

its part of the 15-17 FPP tune

In theory yes as the software is there, atlwast on 15-17 cars, 18+ in unknown

Hes just doing flat shifting hes not using electronic assisted NLS.

 

[NGOT8R]

A WOT Box would be required to shift like this on 18+ Mustangs.

 

[Silver Bullitt]

I’ve tried it on a couple different occasions, but my brain will not physically allow me to push in the clutch without lifting my right foot no matter how hard I try. Too many 1/4 mile passes I guess doing it the trained way.

 

[joe603]

I tried it this am, but couldn't push it too hard as the roads were wet. It seemed to "do" it, but i was just over 5k. Have to try when the weather cooperates.

 

[joe603]

I believe all 2019 and up got it.

You have to be WOT and after 5000rpm for it to activate. You then shift without letting off the gas (clutch in, shift, clutch out) and it won't rev out like on a regular car.

LOL...so I tried it before watching some videos on it, and wondered what I was doing wrong. I was trying to "no-lift" the clutch. DO'H!

 

[EFI]

LOL...so I tried it before watching some videos on it, and wondered what I was doing wrong. I was trying to "no-lift" the clutch. DO'H!

 

[Semp1]

What specifically about the MT82 shift forks makes you think they would have a difficult time handling this?

The 18-19 specifically have light weight forks that are known to have had issues breaking. That’s the only real issues I see. Supposedly Ford corrected it somewhere in mid cycle 2019 and returned to the older quality forks. But I don’t actually know. But why even attempt it? Just clutch in and out. The time saving difference is not enough to matter if you’re not a professional driver. Imho. Have fun with the car. If the car gets put out of comission because of a trans replacement then the whole no lift shift thing will be something we wish we just didn’t think about.

 

[NGOT8R]

I don’t want to risk trying WOT shifts without an actual NLS feature on my ‘19 Bullitt, so I went ahead and ordered the WOT Box. Now I will know for certain that I have this feature. Once I receive it, get it installed and tested, I’ll report back here with the results.

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