Mustang theft using ODP port

[Cati]

guys this is a bit much...... can you take it to face book where it belongs

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[GoBlues38]

My thoughts are to not worry too much. Do what you would normally do to protect your car. If they want you car that badly they will take it. Obd port or Brick.

yep. I have insurance. I have a nice car, but it is not such a one of a kind i can't replace it.

My only hope is if my car is ever stolen, i hope it is never found.

 

[McDoodle]

Well, depends if we're aiming to Kill the guy, or just restrain, if it's restrain i'm going for tendons and ligaments in the arms, legs etc to stop him escaping, if it's to maim, throat or chest, wrists works as well to stop any kind of 'fight' - however, that's all hypothetical and well and good saying it.

If there's someone in your house, you've got two things, hastle and distress knowing somebody broke into your house and stole your belongings whilst you slept - good luck feeling safe in there ever again, and then insurance companies (wankers). I'd sooner take action into my own hands personally, but other people have other things to think about - young kids, wives etc.

The thing is, these guys have friends ..... and they're probably all very unpleasant ...... and they'll know where you live. So if you're going to escalate things to physical violence then you'd better be prepared to go the whole way, because I'd like to bet that (as a reasonable human being) the level you're prepared or capable of taking things to is somewhat lower than theirs. It's kind of like a very mini cold-war scenario; if you act first you'd better be prepared to carry things through to their ultimate conclusion - which could mean the whole thing ending pretty badly for one or both parties.

 

[Manders Mustang]

The thing is, these guys have friends ..... and they're probably all very unpleasant ...... and they'll know where you live. So if you're going to escalate things to physical violence then you'd better be prepared to go the whole way, because I'd like to bet that (as a reasonable human being) the level you're prepared or capable of taking things to is somewhat lower than theirs. It's kind of like a very mini cold-war scenario; if you act first you'd better be prepared to carry things through to their ultimate conclusion - which could mean the whole thing ending pretty badly for one or both parties.

It's all fun and games, the likelihood of us getting broken into is slim, them finding the keys slimmer (as i sometimes (most of the time)) lose them, and thirdly even exiting the property with them.

We've got security systems on every house in our establishment, the 4 inside the gated area and the two outside of it. The gates leading into the estate wont open for just anyone, and in reality, even getting into the house is a bit of a task.

Also, Mustang will be in the Garage, which, the door to, is more temperamental than a woman having her time of the month. :clap2:

Aware they have friends and what not, I don't expect to be broken into, not for an Ecoboost Mustang at least :doh:, Not with the caliber of cars that the neighbors have and their GBP value, over the Mustangs.

 

[Lone Survivor]

There is no 'law of self defence'. You are entitled to defend yourself using 'reasonable force'. Not appear with a knife (no matter how blunt) as this is premeditated (you picked the knife up with intent to harm). Remember the farmer who blasted the 'travellers'? He got 5 years I believe, and the same two dicksplashes had broken into his home a few times.

You go to jail, perp gets off with a community order.

Manders, you're young, life is not like a Holywood movie, all this 'Rambo' shit, really.

Whoever said up there ^^, take it to face plant or whatever, it's a car forum. Just take reasonable steps to mitigate against theft.

 

[McDoodle]

Manders, you're young, life is not like a Holywood movie, all this 'Rambo' shit, really.

Exactly my point. Let them take the car, the consequences of any other action are potentially far too severe.

 

[Manders Mustang]

There is no 'law of self defence'. You are entitled to defend yourself using 'reasonable force'. Not appear with a knife (no matter how blunt) as this is premeditated (you picked the knife up with intent to harm). Remember the farmer who blasted the 'travellers'? He got 5 years I believe, and the same two dicksplashes had broken into his home a few times.

You go to jail, perp gets off with a community order.

Manders, you're young, life is not like a Holywood movie, all this 'Rambo' shit, really.

Whoever said up there ^^, take it to face plant or whatever, it's a car forum. Just take reasonable steps to mitigate against theft.

Think it's different, appearing with a knife and shooting multiple people, there was a story of a dad who killed two perps who'd come into his house to steal, can't remember the exact issue, but robbery, theft, etc. Intent to harm is when violence occurs, if they're coming at you, you're within your right to defend yourself, knife or not, nobody will know i've walked downstairs with it. And realistically, if you heard a noise in your house, would you sit in your room and wait for them to come in (possibly hurt/harm/kill you/your wife/your kids), or are you going to go downstairs with some form of 'insurance/safety' to try and scare them off.

Blah blah, here's the CPS guidance on self-defence when being intruded, as per most legal guidance, "Wishy-washy" and very much loopholes for both sides.
https://www.cps.gov.uk/publications/prosecution/householders.html

And yes, i've been in the situation before (somewhat), years ago, we moved house a few weeks later, nobody died, nobody got hurt, it was Xmas eve (Actually Xmas day), and someone was in the house at about 3AM, needless to say, 9 year old Steve having the police round on christmas was not a good Christmas, My dad went downstairs (without a weapon, and he's scariest guy ever), but just yelling from outside the kitchen scared the perp off.

It's all a big 'fad' We can happily take steps to stop someone stealing our cars, in reality, the likelihood is slim, and even slimmer for them to brake in and take a key/you to confront. Until the heat of the moment happens, you don't know what you will do, adrenaline does weird things. I'm fortunate enough to live in a very very very low crime rate area, but do I expect that to ever stop a crime from happening, no.

 

[jord79]

How about this one...

You put your keys somewhere safe, out of sight but have a second, dummy set hanging up in your hall, visible through the letter box in an awkward spot but not impossible to reach with a coat hanger. Thief goes for this as the easy option and hopefully by the time they've figured out the key is useless, they decide to call it quits.

Not fool proof, maybe just a delaying tactic, but if you were alerted by the first attempt it would buy you some time to do something about it

 

[Manders Mustang]

How about this one...

You put your keys somewhere safe, out of sight but have a second, dummy set hanging up in your hall, visible through the letter box in an awkward spot but not impossible to reach with a coat hanger. Thief goes for this as the easy option and hopefully by the time they've figured out the key is useless, they decide to call it quits.

Not fool proof, maybe just a delaying tactic, but if you were alerted by the first attempt it would buy you some time to do something about it

Or you just don't have a letterbox and instead, in true mustang american heritage you put a letterbox at the bottom of your front garden. :lol:

 

[twiggy]

I was on about the car being stolen away from the house more than someone getting into your home, I think like others have said i'd rather them just take it than being bumped over the head for the keys, I was reading about these Viper alarms which are used to prevent them trying to start your car using the port, has anyone had one of these alarms and are they worth it?

 

[twiggy]

Sorry guys....I meant OBD port, got my letters wrong, think most knew what I was on about though. I've been thinking, can you disconnect it, maybe it runs on it's own fuse (not effecting anything else electrical) and you could just remove the fuse?

 

[TonyTaughtHer]

Friend of mine had his GT stolen here in Houston. The scene of the incident appears to show no forced entry either. So be on the lookout!

 

[Actual]

Couple of things which may be of interest...

No forced entry. I have found out that by holding down unlock on the key fob the windows open. There does not seem to be a way to close the windows when locking the car.

The Mustang has 2 OBD ports and they are very close to each other. On the RHD the first it is fully exposed and visible by the drivers right knee. If you disassemble the dashboard trim above the accelerator pedal and around the fuse box there is a second OBD port inside.

 

[Gibbo205]

Couple of things which may be of interest...

No forced entry. I have found out that by holding down unlock on the key fob the windows open. There does not seem to be a way to close the windows when locking the car.

The Mustang has 2 OBD ports and they are very close to each other. On the RHD the first it is fully exposed and visible by the drivers right knee. If you disassemble the dashboard trim above the accelerator pedal and around the fuse box there is a second OBD port inside.

Is it a big job to disassemble this trim? Maybe an option would be to just remove the ODB port visible?

 

[twiggy]

I think all this talk is worrying me even more, I guess if the car lives in a locked garage and you stick a steering lock disc at least they might be less happy about taking it, then there's the noise the aftermarket exhaust will make which would wake everyone in the street let alone the sound of then breaking into the garage.....might have to go Corsa Extreme now, louder the better.

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