Multiple Transmission Issues that Ford Is Denying

[Kong76]

Did you check the tranny fluid level? I would try a synthetic fluid in there first. You will need three quarts.

+1. I had some buzzing through clutch pedal and shifter with mechanical sounds for two months. Took it in and had the tranny serviced yesterday. The buzzing through pedal is 70%gone and no more mechanical sounds through shifter. Not sure if it was contaminated or low but it has improved. 7500 miles. Might give it a try or just break it in some more.

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[Boddie]

My manual likes to grind into 2nd and 3rd in the winter if I don't let it warm up for awhile. It has does it since I bought the car. Don't know if it is the stock transmission fluid or what. If i let the car sit for a minute or two running it doesn't happen. Not sure if that is actually a problem or normal. Only noticed it again recently since the temps have been dropping.

 

[CB]

My tranny has a little scratching going into a couple of the gears when it's not up to temp. After it's run a few miles it's good. I use Amsoil Synchromesh.

 

[TexArmageddon]

The manual is a massive pile of garbage.

Should have gone with the auto.:eyebulge:

Auto's are boring and garbage...

 

[TexArmageddon]

8k clutch drop till you need a new tranny then warranty that POS mt82?

You know they'll be able to see that that 8k clutch drop through the ecm right? Yeah they'll definitely warranty that.....

 

[TexArmageddon]

What I've found for my mt-82 is it doesn't like the clutch fully pressed in to shift... I press down all the way I get a slight crunch/grind from 2nd to 3rd... but if I press the clutch in a quarter of the way and then shift... nothing on any gear.

Usually shifting like that ended up F-ing up a tranny... now it's what I need to do to keep it happy.

 

[DGT_S550]

Just because it's noisy, to you, does not mean that something is wrong with it and it means even less that another car doesn't exhibit what you don't like. Is it BROKEN? No, apparently it is not. It's running, you're driving it, only complaint is some noise that you don't like. So what are they expected to do? It's not broken.
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Hi VinnAY, my question about the transmission is if something is wrong, not a simple, I just don't like it. I want to see if something is wrong, and based on numerous other people's experiences, Ford saying something is normal is not always exactly accurate, so I don't feel resolved.

As my service manager said to me yesterday, they "can hear the noises and the issues, but they don't know what's causing it, and the point they're at is 'would a new transmission fix the issues?' " They called Ford to check, and Ford said don't do anything. To clarify, I also never asked about a new transmission or anything else. They came to that question themselves.

So I'm not just saying, "hey, I don't like this." Cars sound different, and I don't expect a Mustang to sound or drive like a Mazda, a Lexus, or a BMW. But I think it is a reasonable expectation that it would drive and sound like another identically spec'd Mustang.

 

[DGT_S550]

+1. I had some buzzing through clutch pedal and shifter with mechanical sounds for two months. Took it in and had the tranny serviced yesterday. The buzzing through pedal is 70%gone and no more mechanical sounds through shifter. Not sure if it was contaminated or low but it has improved. 7500 miles. Might give it a try or just break it in some more.

Thanks to you both for the suggestion. I am planning at some point to change the transmission fluid to a synthetic. To some other poster's suggestions, before I bought the car I planned on buying an MGW or Barton (and still do at some point).

I'm holding off on both these things until I make sure that the transmission is actually fine. I don't want to do anything transmission related if there could be a reasonable warranty concern with the transmission soon, as any alterations (shifter, fluid, etc) would likely be a good scapegoat to void the warranty of the transmission.

I sincerely want this to not be an issue and for the transmission to be fine. I'm at 890 miles at the moment, and the noises have not really changed much, though the transmission has gotten clackier.

 

[FordTechOne]

Hi VinnAY, my question about the transmission is if something is wrong, not a simple, I just don't like it. I want to see if something is wrong, and based on numerous other people's experiences, Ford saying something is normal is not always exactly accurate, so I don't feel resolved.

As my service manager said to me yesterday, they "can hear the noises and the issues, but they don't know what's causing it, and the point they're at is 'would a new transmission fix the issues?' " They called Ford to check, and Ford said don't do anything. To clarify, I also never asked about a new transmission or anything else. They came to that question themselves.

So I'm not just saying, "hey, I don't like this." Cars sound different, and I don't expect a Mustang to sound or drive like a Mazda, a Lexus, or a BMW. But I think it is a reasonable expectation that it would drive and sound like another identically spec'd Mustang.

The "noises" you're hearing sound normal for a drivetrain on this type of vehicle. Perhaps you've never owned a vehicle with 435+HP, but the driveline components (transmission, differential, axles) need to be heavy duty in order to handle the horsepower and torque output of this powertrain combination. As driveline components break in, their operational noise will become more apparent. The larger the transmission/axle assembly and internal components, the more audible noise it will create. Some gear noise from the driveline is NORMAL on these cars; it's not a luxury vehicle, it's a high performance pony car.

 

[Kachow]

I have a 2015 PP GT with Torsen as well. Coming from a Wrangler, this Transmission is AMAZING. However, I have the same "thud" going into any gear from a stop and gear whine at lower RPMs. I honestly NEVER thought this to be a mechanical issue. Ive been driving stick for a very long time and each has their own personality of clanks, whines, grinds, and thuds. Its normal...I have Roush exhaust now and thats all I listen to ;). I have 15k miles on the car, you get used to it. I know this may not ease your fears...just remember all manuals have their quirks!

 

[FordTechOne]

I have a 2015 PP GT with Torsen as well. Coming from a Wrangler, this Transmission is AMAZING. However, I have the same "thud" going into any gear from a stop and gear whine at lower RPMs. I honestly NEVER thought this to be a mechanical issue. Ive been driving stick for a very long time and each has their own personality of clanks, whines, grinds, and thuds. Its normal...I have Roush exhaust now and thats all I listen to ;). I have 15k miles on the car, you get used to it. I know this may not ease your fears...just remember all manuals have their quirks!

People....be more like Kachow. Enjoy your car and stop looking for things to complain about.

I own a car with a T56...one of the most heavy duty transmissions you can get in a performance vehicle...and guess what? It makes noises - whine, clack, clunk, you name it. That's the price you pay for having a vehicle that allows you to be directly connected to the driveline, steering, and suspension. If you want something that isolates you from the drivetrain and the road, buy a Lincoln.

 

[jasonstang]

Hi VinnAY, my question about the transmission is if something is wrong, not a simple, I just don't like it. I want to see if something is wrong, and based on numerous other people's experiences, Ford saying something is normal is not always exactly accurate, so I don't feel resolved.

As my service manager said to me yesterday, they "can hear the noises and the issues, but they don't know what's causing it, and the point they're at is 'would a new transmission fix the issues?' " They called Ford to check, and Ford said don't do anything. To clarify, I also never asked about a new transmission or anything else. They came to that question themselves.

So I'm not just saying, "hey, I don't like this." Cars sound different, and I don't expect a Mustang to sound or drive like a Mazda, a Lexus, or a BMW. But I think it is a reasonable expectation that it would drive and sound like another identically spec'd Mustang.

Have you ever owned Mazda, Toyota, and BMW? They also make clunks and whines. I have owned all three brands and they are no better.
My RX-8 would constantly whine in 4th gear, and the clunk sound when shifting gear. Sometime 2nd gear wouldn't go in at 8000 rpm and 3rd gear always snatched a little.
My current Toyota, clunks when changing back and forth from R to D, 1st to 2nd gear shift always jerks a little.
Before the Toyota, I had a BMW 330xi, also clunking when shifting from R to D, and vibration when stopped in traffic.
All cars have problems, that's why they have warranty.
I would keep driving unless you have operation issues. If things really are failing, you will know and will be covered under warranty.

 

[DGT_S550]

Hi FordTechOne, I'm not trying to be isolated from the road, I am trying to determine if my car has an issue, since it is unlike every other Mustang GT PP I have driven. All of those cars sound the same, so I want to know why mine sounds and feels different.

My whole question is about trying to determine if there is something that needs to be addressed. I'm not saying a Mustang should sound or feel like a luxury car where I can't hear or feel anything.

To Jasonstang, yes, I have owned Mazda, BMW, and Nissan manuals. The Mustang is not the highest horsepower car I have owned, though it is the highest horsepower naturally aspirated car.

It's fine with me if someone wants to say that it's great that their car doesn't sound or feel right because that's the price of admission, or whatever. But that's not me. For everyone saying, "if something is wrong, that's why there's a warranty", well that's my entire point. There might be something wrong, and my warranty at this point doesn't effectively exist for these issues, if they are of concern.

I know the differential thud in these cars is normal, and it has never concerned me as anything more than an annoyance. I mentioned my car made the thud to list as a quality of the trans, but it is not the cause of my concern. That's just a quality the GT PP exhibits, and it is what it is. My concern is all the other things that are not present in the other Mustangs. I'm not sure why that seems to offend some people here.

In any event, thanks for people's responses, Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

 

[Kong76]

From my experience every trip to the dealer comes back normal or can not duplicate unless its towed in.

 

[T-S550-X]

The "noises" you're hearing sound normal for a drivetrain on this type of vehicle. Perhaps you've never owned a vehicle with 435+HP, but the driveline components (transmission, differential, axles) need to be heavy duty in order to handle the horsepower and torque output of this powertrain combination. As driveline components break in, their operational noise will become more apparent. The larger the transmission/axle assembly and internal components, the more audible noise it will create. Some gear noise from the driveline is NORMAL on these cars; it's not a luxury vehicle, it's a high performance pony car.

I agree with the above. I owned two WRX's before the stang. Both cars were manual transmissions. Each car had its quirks. My last WRX had a very audible throwout bearing that whistled when in neutral with clutch in. As annoying as it was, it was considered normal. Replacement TOB's, resulted in the same noise later.

My mustang is also a PP car and has some audible gear whine. (This may be because I have the Steeda diff bushings which IMO made it louder.) The transmission is not the smoothest, but does it does it's job. It honestly sounds like what your worried about is all fairly normal. Some cars are louder than others.

If the transmission shits the bed, it's covered under warranty. Put some more miles on the car and enjoy it.

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