MRT Cat Back

[Tony Alonso]

If you really think that, then don't buy FRPP or Borlas or Corsa lol. MRT pricing is on par with those manufacturers (I'm basing that off of quality and material used to create the exhaust), and just like them, the vendors that sell their products are going to offer discounts. Did you pay MSRP for your car? Probably not...just the same as you won't pay MSRP for an MRT exhaust setup.

People are freaking out because they 'upped' their MSRP price to be the same as the other exhaust manufacturers with the same quality of product. If you asked a vendor, it would probably still cost what it was listed for a month ago.

I agree with you on this.

The cost of the high quality stainless being used in that system is a part of the pricing. I know the owner of that company, and I can assure anyone that asks that "greed" is not a motivation for pricing changes. They are quite aware of the market landscape.

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[JM7225]

I agree with you on this.

The cost of the high quality stainless being used in that system is a part of the pricing. I know the owner of that company, and I can assure anyone that asks that "greed" is not a motivation for pricing changes. They are quite aware of the market landscape.

Yep I agree. If they had their MSRP at $1100 and all the vendors sold it for $1100, everyone would have a fit because they are selling for MSRP and just ripping people off, even though that includes the markup. Then they raise the price to $1300 and sell for $1100 and people have a fit because they raised the MSRP.

Chill out and by the exhaust that you like the best that you can afford. Take your time to look at the price from vendors. I don't know of anyone complaining about the price of FRPP, and that's because they didn't pay MSRP for it...

 

[Kbreese]

I agree with you on this.

The cost of the high quality stainless being used in that system is a part of the pricing. I know the owner of that company, and I can assure anyone that asks that "greed" is not a motivation for pricing changes. They are quite aware of the market landscape.

Fair enough but I think the consensus among most people here with regard to the "market landscape" is that the majority of these exhaust systems are significantly overpriced for what they are. That's why a lot of guys are resorting to buying the parts separately and taking it to an exhaust shop.

With that said, if the manufacturers and vendors are able to sell the quantities they want at the price of their choosing then I guess I can't blame them. The line between Capitalism 101 & greed...it's a grey area.

But ultimately I agree with you...who can blame the owner, as a business man, if it's working for him. It's just a little frustrating sometimes for the consumers, that's all.

 

[Tony Alonso]

Fair enough but I think the consensus among most people here with regard to the "market landscape" is that the majority of these exhaust systems are significantly overpriced for what they are. That's why a lot of guys are resorting to buying the parts separately and taking it to an exhaust shop.

This has been this way for every generation of Mustang I've seen since 1995. Someone, somewhere, will find an alternate approach based on their budget.

With that said, if the manufacturers and vendors are able to sell the quantities they want at the price of their choosing then I guess I can't blame them. The line between Capitalism 101 & greed...it's a grey area.

In my opinion, the term "greed" is used when perhaps "overpriced" might be suitable to describe the situation. I've watched the construction of these systems in person. They are advertised as "hand crafted", and they are. There are many factors that lead up to the price. If the sales drop, then you could surely expect the prices to be adjusted accordingly.

But ultimately I agree with you...who can blame the owner, as a business man, if it's working for him. It's just a little frustrating sometimes for the consumers, that's all.

There ultimately will also be tension between consumer desires on price and what can be done to make a quality product that profitably sells. It's the nature of the market. I understand how seeing a price increase might change things. However, I've also seen people pay more money for things when they find the value that is meaningful to them.

This exhaust system has a certain sound quality that I like. I am not currently in the market for one because I am daily driving my car now. If I was in the market, I would find it be worth my dollar spent.

My opinion is that the exhaust system on this car compared the last generation is less "aftermarket friendly" because it is one solid piece. That means different engineering and construction techniques. The S197s were already in portions that were clamped together. I think this has a big bearing on the economics.

 

[Kbreese]

If the price increase was simply a marketing thing and really had no bearing on what they actually sell for, then I agree there is nothing to complain about there.

And regarding the sound...MRT is the best sounding one I have heard. And the quality appears to be top-notch, and I even like the tips too. Total fan.

But even @ $1100 I still say overpriced. At the end of the day that's just my opinion. You have a different opinion and that's fine.

 

[JM7225]

If the price increase was simply a marketing thing and really had no bearing on what they actually sell for, then I agree there is nothing to complain about there.

And regarding the sound...MRT is the best sounding one I have heard. And the quality appears to be top-notch, and I even like the tips too. Total fan.

But even @ $1100 I still say overpriced. At the end of the day that's just my opinion. You have a different opinion and that's fine.

$1100 is a lot of hard earned money, you're right. To me though, it was worth it because the exhaust sound is something you and everyone ALWAYS hear from your car, and it makes a big statement. It's worth it because it's the exact one I wanted without exception.

There are plenty of other high profile exhaust out there for just as much if not more money, and there are a few that are cheaper. If $1100 is too much for you to spend on an exhaust, I respect that, but your options are limited after that.

 

[moarhorsepower]

Decision is going to be tough. It's between the Corsa and the MRT system for me at this point.

 

[dabears2322]

When exhausts came out for the 5.0 in 2011, they were extremely high and eventually went down after a while. Not sure how long it took but I'd guess probably a year of them being on the market

 

[LHousePhoto]

I wish I had more confidence in MRT as their exhaust does sound pretty good. My friend ordered the catted turbo back for his Ecoboost from CJ's, it sounds absolutely amazing. However, MRT packaged the exhaust by shoving everything in to a box, with no packaging; no styrofoam, no bubble wrap, no filled air bags, not even a packing peanut. CJ's, didn't think they would need to open and repackage the exhaust, because, why would they? And so in shipping his exhaust got trashed, one of the mufflers is beat to hell. MRT won't stand behind it, and CJ's is stuck with the bill of replacing the muffler. Good on CJ's for picking up the slack, but it never should have come to that.

 

[Blk2015GT]

I wish I had more confidence in MRT as their exhaust does sound pretty good. My friend ordered the catted turbo back for his Ecoboost from CJ's, it sounds absolutely amazing. However, MRT packaged the exhaust by shoving everything in to a box, with no packaging; no styrofoam, no bubble wrap, no filled air bags, not even a packing peanut. CJ's, didn't think they would need to open and repackage the exhaust, because, why would they? And so in shipping his exhaust got trashed, one of the mufflers is beat to hell. MRT won't stand behind it, and CJ's is stuck with the bill of replacing the muffler. Good on CJ's for picking up the slack, but it never should have come to that.

Wow not good. You figure for the $300 price increase they could stick $1 worth of foam in the box. Glad I went ARH

 

[Kbreese]

I wish I had more confidence in MRT as their exhaust does sound pretty good. My friend ordered the catted turbo back for his Ecoboost from CJ's, it sounds absolutely amazing. However, MRT packaged the exhaust by shoving everything in to a box, with no packaging; no styrofoam, no bubble wrap, no filled air bags, not even a packing peanut. CJ's, didn't think they would need to open and repackage the exhaust, because, why would they? And so in shipping his exhaust got trashed, one of the mufflers is beat to hell. MRT won't stand behind it, and CJ's is stuck with the bill of replacing the muffler. Good on CJ's for picking up the slack, but it never should have come to that.

Wow, that is an eye opener. I can't believe that MRT not only packaged it that way but also refused to stand behind it. Curious how CJ's will handle shipping their exhaust systems going forward.

 

[Mikeyd56]

Very interesting. Im between MRT and ARH H. Yet I want to wait for borla. Idk what to know

 

[LHousePhoto]

Wow not good. You figure for the $300 price increase they could stick $1 worth of foam in the box. Glad I went ARH

Wow, that is an eye opener. I can't believe that MRT not only packaged it that way but also refused to stand behind it. Curious how CJ's will handle shipping their exhaust systems going forward.

It is a real shame, because like I said, his exhaust sounds phenomenal. Very aggressive, like a turbo-4 should. The tips look fine, it's just the can, so it's not necessarily a 'problem' he's just upset about their customer service and stance on it.

 

[Blk2015GT]

It is a real shame, because like I said, his exhaust sounds phenomenal. Very aggressive, like a turbo-4 should. The tips look fine, it's just the can, so it's not necessarily a 'problem' he's just upset about their customer service and stance on it.

Still if you are already paying some inflated amount you should get a perfectly brand new condition part. MRT should stand by their product and its shipping method. All carriers have insurance for damaged items. All MRT would have to do is make it right with you and file a claim for the value of the part.

Them not standing by their product, along with a $300 price increase for no reason (on the GT at least) scared me right off MRT and over to ARH.

 

[Farmundeh]

Im down in northern VA for the weekend and on my sister's ipad, so apologies in advance for any typos. In response to those defending MRT, with all due respect I completely disagree. Whether or not vendors are willing to discount the selling price of the exhaust is irrelevant. If MRT felt their system was on par with other brands selling for around $1400 (or even superior), they should have done their homework and planned better before releasing their pricing. Raising their prices so soon after the initial product release is very questionable IMO and in very poor taste. without any form of explanation being provided by MRT, I will assume it was done to maximize the margin of profit. And to be clear, they're obviously free to do this and im sure many will buy regardless, but they will definitely not be getting my business. Also, the posts above about the damaged EB exhaust dont do much to impress me with how they conduct business either. All signs of piss-poor management, if you ask me.

Anyways, after driving my car down here for two days and finally getting to test out my ARH H-pipe properly, I can happily say that I don't regret not going with MRT even when their prices were still lower. My car sounds phenomenal.

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