Careful what you wish for. A breathed-on 3.7 EB V6 would smoke the current Coyote, and that would be the end of the V8 Mustang. Ford would get a little CAFE bump, and the Mustang would benefit from economy-of-scale pricing, since the EB accounts for over half of F150 sales these days.
And then they make a 3.8L V8 Ecoboost now I'm down for that.
I agree I'd rather have the v6 than the i4t, but they are more likely to kill the v6 completely than add the missing options to it. As above, blame CAFE.After reviewing the 215 order sheet, it's clear they don't want to sell many v6 cars! The options list is very limited , They don't offer nav , no backup camera, no leather ..... !, quite honestly I have a boss 302 in the garage and I don't want a 4 cyl mustang!
I do believe in the future, once they realize their v6 sales are slagging they will offer a performance package with some goodies...... I'll wait
FYI I lease BMW 328 four-cylinder turbo ....motor sounds like a lawn mower at idle, and mileage is terrible .... I don't think that a four banger should be in an American performance Car.
What say u?
Ummm from 1979 to 1986 a turbo 4 was offered in the Mustang. The 2.3 was in a Mustang from 1974-1993. 20 of the 28 years of Mustang history to that point in time had a 4 cylinder, actually the same 4 cylinder. People seem to forget that fact, it is a very solid component of Mustang history, happy they brought it back.
The '79 to approximately '82 turbos were extremely unreliable and had overheating issues. They eventually got it right around '83 but look around and you won't find many of the turbos still in service. 150K miles on that engine was a miracle. 200K - not happening.
After reviewing the 215 order sheet, it's clear they don't want to sell many v6 cars! The options list is very limited , They don't offer nav , no backup camera, no leather ..... !, quite honestly I have a boss 302 in the garage and I don't want a 4 cyl mustang!
I do believe in the future, once they realize their v6 sales are slagging they will offer a performance package with some goodies...... I'll wait
FYI I lease BMW 328 four-cylinder turbo ....motor sounds like a lawn mower at idle, and mileage is terrible .... I don't think that a four banger should be in an American performance Car.
What say u?
This is what I can see coming to the mustang for a V6 replacement it still leaves the N/A V8 on top.
LOL we used to run cardboard across the radiators in our carb/turbo's to get heat in the winter. For us they were not any less reliable than any other emissioned up turd from the late 70's/early 80's. But that wasn't really my point, but to your point reliability long term for any of Fords Detonation engines is a remains to be seen. You also have to remember we drive our cars many more miles today than we ever did, a car needs to be reliable to do that. Cars today for the most part are trouble-free for the first 10 years. It will be interesting to see how long the ECO line survives in the snow/salt States. Heat, dissimilar metals, and calcium chloride make for a horrible combination.
I think we could see this engine as a middle ground. In the Mustang, tuned for 350-370 HP, it would be awesome. But I think the big deal for Ford is the CAFE bump of getting rid of the V8 totally. Hence I think we might see a GT with the bigger EB V6. Hence I think we might see a GT with the bigger EB V6. The Navigator and Expedition are showing the way. They are EB-only this year.
I still think a small V8 EB is in the future
The heat issue was in the TC3 turbo unit and keeping the bearings alive. Granted that turbochargers cost much less these days due to mass production, but they will be one of the first items to wear. Between the high rotational speed of the turbo and the higher pressures on the engine internals vs. a NA V6, which will have the lower operating cost over time?
