Hey I get it, it’s hard for you guys to accept the crate as stock when Dodge themselves gives you a easy way out by calling the crate aftermarket. I understand your side and I really didn’t think I would change anyone’s mind. I see it on all the forums, hate for the gt500 on the dodge forums and hate for the demon on the Ford forums. Have a good day.
So some race fuel is legal some is not, I get that, my point still stands however. Dodge could not sell a new car in CA that could run on race gas almost any race gas in fact. I have offered very good evidence for this, number one why did Doge put the race gas PCM in the crate and not on the car? Suppose you tell me? I am sorry about the mix up but most race gas is technically illegal in CA.
It depends, is the woodchuck from California?
I think you know that’s not quite an answer.
I'll bite. To your question about the Tesla update... It depends, is the update something that would also be available from the factory to new cars at the time of purchase? If so it's stock if not it's kind of a gray area because no physical parts are swapped out which is not the case with the Demon crate.
So to sum up the first part, by that logic if Dodge made the demon for 2019 and installed the crate parts at the factory that would make the 2018 demons stock? What changed about the cars? By the logic of the second point both the Z06s that got the update and those that didn’t are both stock right? I agree, you have to know that some owners didn’t get the update. I don’t know much about the z06 thing so correct me if I’m wrong on that. The third part makes some sense but you didn’t address the part about the crate being VIN specific. Look I don’t think I’m going to convince all of you but maybe I pointed out a few things and made you think about it in a new way.
I fully agree with this. The Demon will be quicker in the 1/4 mile
Nope, it is NOT stock, period. It is tied to the VIN simply because you are required to have a VIN to get the crate. No Demon VIN, NO crate. Definitely an aftermarket kit sold brilliantly with voodoo language.
So you think the only reason the demon crate had a VIN on it was because you needed a VIN to order the crate? Then why was the cars number on the crate and the owners name? Also the fact that you couldn’t get the crate unless you had the car only further proves it’s stock. Name one other so called aftermarket part that you have to have the car it goes on to order?
The reason you needed the VIN number and owner info etc was to keep non Demon owners from purchasing a $1 box of goodies.
Of course, and NO other people did buy it, last time I checked aftermarket is sold to anyone with the money to buy. Even OEM aftermarket is open to anyone who will buy. Yes yes I know dodge called it that, they were legally forced to do so, I think we all know Dodge would have gladly put the parts on at the factory. It’s really sad that Ford guys or anyone for that matter would use this to call a car any car modded. I mean really does every part have to be put in on the production line to be stock? The demon crate has skinnies, a jack, another air filter, plus alot of other stuff, no way could all of this stuff been put on at the factory, or shipped with the cars. I can’t think of any other way Dodge could have done the crate, each crate was shipped to the owner, how could they have sold it with the car, when they didn’t yet know the VIN or the number of the car yet?
Just one example but when Tech Pack GT350 owners wanted to order a TrackPack/R Model TR3160 (with pump) from FP (as it was considered "aftermarket") they had to provide a VIN.
Yeah and you have to have a VIN to order a demon windshield too, that does not make it aftermarket.
