High Performance Fuel Systems

[KPM Fuel Systems]

Hi Everyone!

Thought it would be best to introduce ourselves to the forum.
We are KPM Fuel Systems and have come on as a sponsor to help share our knowledge and experience. Especially in the category of High Performance Fuel Systems.
We are a manufacturer of in tank Fuel Modules that are a direct replacement for the factory module that allows you to provide more fuel to your high performance engines.
Our modules can provide constant fuel to vehicles producing up to 2700hp without the need of a "Return Style" fuel system.
We have a tremendous amount of experience in Mustangs especially and with having a distribution warehouse based in California for our US based customers, it is now even easier to get your hands on our products and into your pride and joys.

We are looking forward to being involved in this community and will be ready and available to help answer any questions.

KPM Fuel Systems

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[WildHorse]

Our modules can provide constant fuel to vehicles producing up to 2700hp without the need of a "Return Style" fuel system.

I've said many times you don't need a return fuel system with modern cars.
I get scolded and laughed at for saying such ha-ha.

Anywho your KPM 1000HP IN-TANK has peeked my interest.
Which Bosch pumps do you guys use ?

 

[LOL WUT]

Hi Everyone!

Thought it would be best to introduce ourselves to the forum.
We are KPM Fuel Systems and have come on as a sponsor to help share our knowledge and experience. Especially in the category of High Performance Fuel Systems.
We are a manufacturer of in tank Fuel Modules that are a direct replacement for the factory module that allows you to provide more fuel to your high performance engines.
Our modules can provide constant fuel to vehicles producing up to 2700hp without the need of a "Return Style" fuel system.
We have a tremendous amount of experience in Mustangs especially and with having a distribution warehouse based in California for our US based customers, it is now even easier to get your hands on our products and into your pride and joys.

We are looking forward to being involved in this community and will be ready and available to help answer any questions.

KPM Fuel Systems

20/20 Hindsight of my build would include a KPM setup. Looks like you offer some great options!

 

[Basspro302]

You guys need to convince some of the tuners to support your product. Most of us are at the tuners mercy if they will tune a car with said fuel system. It looks like an excellent product.

 

[Wolfys11]

As a person like many whos not in the world of fuel systems yet and sit in just a bap and injectors for now, why do we have a “need” for a return style fuel system? What in does a stock returnless system not work?

as far as kpm, how does your system differ to allow a returnless system work?

i also looked but could you give a brief explanation what that pwm module is/does?

im looking at the 1500 or maybe the 2200 system for e85, would this still use stock lines or would the 900whp area range still need aftermarket lines?

im sure many are wondering these so i figured id ask as someone whos thinking about investing into e85 and a fuel system, but hardly know anything except that i head many nightmare stories about the fuel systems giving out pumps and wiring issues left and right

 

[KPM Fuel Systems]

I've said many times you don't need a return fuel system with modern cars.
I get scolded and laughed at for saying such ha-ha.

Anywho your KPM 1000HP IN-TANK has peeked my interest.
Which Bosch pumps do you guys use ?

Exactly correct. There are no modern high performance cars manufactured anywhere in the world that use a return style system. Mustang, Dodge Demon, Camaro ZL1, Ferrari, Corvette,Lamborghini, Porsche,Bugatti, etc etc.
The benifits of the returnless fuel systems far outweigh the old style return system. This is why they are used exclusively in all Modern muscle cars.
We utilse 2 x 300lph Bosch Racing Fuel Pumps in our KPM 1000 HP.

 

[KPM Fuel Systems]

You guys need to convince some of the tuners to support your product. Most of us are at the tuners mercy if they will tune a car with said fuel system. It looks like an excellent product.

Spot on. At the moment Wengerd has no problem tuning our systems.
There are also many other tuners that are now seeing the ease and benifits.

We will be displaying at PRI again this year to speak with shops and tuners explaining the erase of fitment and tuning.

 

[tdstuart]

We are looking forward to being involved in this community and will be ready and available to help answer any questions.

Ya only one question, how do I get entered into a free fuel system giveaway?

On a serious note glad to see a company stepping in and filling the much hated void in the mustang aftermarket fuel systems market.

 

[WildHorse]

Exactly correct. There are no modern high performance cars manufactured anywhere in the world that use a return style system. Mustang, Dodge Demon, Camaro ZL1, Ferrari, Corvette,Lamborghini, Porsche,Bugatti, etc etc.
The benifits of the returnless fuel systems far outweigh the old style return system. This is why they are used exclusively in all Modern muscle cars..

Oh I know, from 120hp to 2000hp ... return-less.
Return is great for carb apps, and that's it.

We utilse 2 x 300lph Bosch Racing Fuel Pumps

Ahhh good to know !

 

[KPM Fuel Systems]

As a person like many whos not in the world of fuel systems yet and sit in just a bap and injectors for now, why do we have a “need” for a return style fuel system? What in does a stock returnless system not work?

as far as kpm, how does your system differ to allow a returnless system work?

i also looked but could you give a brief explanation what that pwm module is/does?

im looking at the 1500 or maybe the 2200 system for e85, would this still use stock lines or would the 900whp area range still need aftermarket lines?

im sure many are wondering these so i figured id ask as someone whos thinking about investing into e85 and a fuel system, but hardly know anything except that i head many nightmare stories about the fuel systems giving out pumps and wiring issues left and right

Fuel systems is definitely one of the most important upgrades when increasing power.
Over time there have always been stop-gap solutions required to achieve this. - surge tanks, voltage boosters , bigger pumps on hangers, return style systems etc.
All of the above are a means to a result , however they all have a compromise and their down side.
Very few companies have developed fuel systems that 1) achieve the fuel output required, for road and race and 2) still have all the functionalities that we demand from the OE manufacturer.

KPM evolution with returnless systems.
For over 14 years KPM Fuel Systems have been manufacturing OE style high performance fuel systems for the Australian market. When the US muscle cars entered our Australian dealerships for the first time in 2015, we immediately commenced development and design for the new Mustang and Camaro models.
The designs were based on OE style intank buckets with venturi jet pumps and refill valves , all with the same functionalities however with the abilty to deliver much more with bigger pumps extra venturi jet pumps and refill valves and PWM controller where required. All returnless.
With time we were receiving orders from many US based companies and enthusiast that could see the benefits.
We now have a warehouse based in CA to service the US demand with supply, tech info etc.

Return System operation
Due to the nature of return systems fuel pressure is continually being regulated by a mechanical fuel pressure regulator, with the fuel pump/s always running at 100%.
As the name suggests the fuel is always being pumped from the tank, to the hot engine bay fuel rails and the majority returning to the fuel tank for its next cycle. The fuel continually increases in heat with this cycling.

1) The pumps running at 100% 12-14v transfer increased heat into the fuel.
2) The constant circulating to the engine and back to the tank also heats the fuel
3) the external fuel pressure regulator relies in boost reference to increase fuel pressure under boost. This lowers the efficiency of the fuel pumps.

Cool dense fuel creates more power .Hot fuel can cause loss in power and at worst vapourises

Returnless System Operation
The returnless fuel pump fuel pressure is controlled by an electronic fuel pressure regulator. In the Mustang this is called the Fuel Pump Control Module (FPCM).
The FPCM controls fuel pressure by lowering or raising the voltage to the fuel pump.
At idle , light-mid cruise the fuel pumps only receive 6-10 volts. Under high or full load the FPCM will increase the voltage to the pumps to maintain the set pressures eg 10-12v.
Due to the car being driven between idle and mid cruise for 95% of its life , the FPCM only needs to deliver 6-10 volts to the fuel pumps 95% of the time.

1) Fuel remains much cooler due to less voltage to the pump/s meaning less heat transfer.
2) Fuel dos not need to return to the tank due to running a fuel pressure regulator, therefore reduces the transferred engine heat due to constantly cycling to the engine and tank.
3) No need for extra return fuel lines, and fuel pressure regulators.
4) The fuel pumps run more efficiently as they can run at much lower fuel pressures , especially under high boost.

All our KPM Fuel kits come with the components required to delivery the advertised power output to the engine on pump fuel.
As the system size increase eg 1500hp and upwards the necessary components are included.
The standard Mustang FPCM can only support 25 amps of current. This is why 1500hp onwards we include our KPM PWM Fuel Controller which can handle up to 80 AMPS of current.
The KPM PWM Fuel Controller works exactly the same as the factory FPCM only able to handle much more pumping power.

We start supplying larger direct fit quick connect stainless steel fuel lines on our 2200hp and 2700hp systems. The 1500hp system is proven to handle this on standard lines.
In your case up to 900rwhp on e85 with standard lines.


WOW that was a long answer.
Hope it explained for you

 

[RNM]

You guys need to convince some of the tuners to support your product. Most of us are at the tuners mercy if they will tune a car with said fuel system. It looks like an excellent product.

Meh, I would skip Lund altogether anyways.

 

[RNM]

Group buy anyone?

 

[Wolfys11]

Fuel systems is definitely one of the most important upgrades when increasing power.
Over time there have always been stop-gap solutions required to achieve this. - surge tanks, voltage boosters , bigger pumps on hangers, return style systems etc.
All of the above are a means to a result , however they all have a compromise and their down side.
Very few companies have developed fuel systems that 1) achieve the fuel output required, for road and race and 2) still have all the functionalities that we demand from the OE manufacturer.

KPM evolution with returnless systems.
For over 14 years KPM Fuel Systems have been manufacturing OE style high performance fuel systems for the Australian market. When the US muscle cars entered our Australian dealerships for the first time in 2015, we immediately commenced development and design for the new Mustang and Camaro models.
The designs were based on OE style intank buckets with venturi jet pumps and refill valves , all with the same functionalities however with the abilty to deliver much more with bigger pumps extra venturi jet pumps and refill valves and PWM controller where required. All returnless.
With time we were receiving orders from many US based companies and enthusiast that could see the benefits.
We now have a warehouse based in CA to service the US demand with supply, tech info etc.

Return System operation
Due to the nature of return systems fuel pressure is continually being regulated by a mechanical fuel pressure regulator, with the fuel pump/s always running at 100%.
As the name suggests the fuel is always being pumped from the tank, to the hot engine bay fuel rails and the majority returning to the fuel tank for its next cycle. The fuel continually increases in heat with this cycling.

1) The pumps running at 100% 12-14v transfer increased heat into the fuel.
2) The constant circulating to the engine and back to the tank also heats the fuel
3) the external fuel pressure regulator relies in boost reference to increase fuel pressure under boost. This lowers the efficiency of the fuel pumps.

Cool dense fuel creates more power .Hot fuel can cause loss in power and at worst vapourises

Returnless System Operation
The returnless fuel pump fuel pressure is controlled by an electronic fuel pressure regulator. In the Mustang this is called the Fuel Pump Control Module (FPCM).
The FPCM controls fuel pressure by lowering or raising the voltage to the fuel pump.
At idle , light-mid cruise the fuel pumps only receive 6-10 volts. Under high or full load the FPCM will increase the voltage to the pumps to maintain the set pressures eg 10-12v.
Due to the car being driven between idle and mid cruise for 95% of its life , the FPCM only needs to deliver 6-10 volts to the fuel pumps 95% of the time.

1) Fuel remains much cooler due to less voltage to the pump/s meaning less heat transfer.
2) Fuel dos not need to return to the tank due to running a fuel pressure regulator, therefore reduces the transferred engine heat due to constantly cycling to the engine and tank.
3) No need for extra return fuel lines, and fuel pressure regulators.
4) The fuel pumps run more efficiently as they can run at much lower fuel pressures , especially under high boost.

All our KPM Fuel kits come with the components required to delivery the advertised power output to the engine on pump fuel.
As the system size increase eg 1500hp and upwards the necessary components are included.
The standard Mustang FPCM can only support 25 amps of current. This is why 1500hp onwards we include our KPM PWM Fuel Controller which can handle up to 80 AMPS of current.
The KPM PWM Fuel Controller works exactly the same as the factory FPCM only able to handle much more pumping power.

We start supplying larger direct fit quick connect stainless steel fuel lines on our 2200hp and 2700hp systems. The 1500hp system is proven to handle this on standard lines.
In your case up to 900rwhp on e85 with standard lines.


WOW that was a long answer.
Hope it explained for you

WOW that was a great response
Many thanks!!!!!!
I will definitely be getting in contact once im ready for e85

 

[Basspro302]

Meh, I would skip Lund altogether anyways.

Im not spending another 1k to switch plus having to go through data logging. It also runs fine and is fast. I just really hate making an lines, its awful.

 

[Brisvegas]

We are looking forward to being involved in this community and will be ready and available to help answer any questions.

I assume your modules are fit for E85 but i am asking anyway for clarification . As an ex Adelaide boy i was surprised to see your shop one street over from where i grew up as a boy , it's a small world . TIA

Edit just saw clarification on your website but will leave this post up anyway for others

" The fuel pumps are both 100% Petrol , Ethanol and Methanol compatible and able to deliver massive amounts of cool dense fuel at standard vehicle voltages. "

I will drop in next time i am in RAdelaide and pick up a module , assuming they are always on the shelf ?

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