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I mean as far as some classics go, factory air means a lot as far as desirability.
With all due respect factory air conditioning was not available nor desirable on many classic cars including the mid year Corvettes, '67 to '70 Z28's, '69/'70 Boss 302's, '69/'70 Boss 429's, '71 Boss 351's, '69 1/2 SC/Ramblers, '70 AAR Cudas, '70 TA Challengers and pretty much all of the ~10,000 Chrysler Hemi cars for the Muscle Car era.

Do you really think that a '67 400 HP Tri-Power Corvette with air conditioning is worth more than a non air conditioned '67 435 HP Tri-Power Corvette? It is not even close!

Can anyone imagine a '67 to '69 L88 Corvette with air conditioning?

In recent years I also believe that the 2000 Mustang Cobra R's did not have air conditioning or radios as available options for these cars.

Are not the recent 2014/2015 Chevrolet Camaro Z28's without air conditioning more valuable than Z28 cars with air conditioning? The Z28's without air conditioning are certainly much more rare than the air conditioned cars.

If I am correct the base 2015/2016 base Shelby GT350 R's do not come with air condtioning much the same as many of the classic muscle cars of the '60's.

Based on the value of the above classic cars with air conditioning versus the not air condtioned cars please don't suggest that factory air conditioned cars are more desirable/valuable versus non air conditioned cars as your theory does not hold much merit.

Each to their own but based on history I suggest that your comments are not justified.
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Do you really think that a '67 400 HP Tri-Power Corvette with air conditioning is worth more than a non air conditioned '67 435 HP Tri-Power Corvette? It is not even close
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Below points are debatable but I believe are sound for the near term (say 10-15 years):
In regards to this one specific example I believe the reason the 435hp car is worth more than the 400hp car has more to do with engine performance than A/C. The 435hp engine had mechanical lifters and is deemed the more extreme performance engine. As you know the 350R has the same engine regardless of A/C or not and weighs only 50lbs less when not equipped with A/C and radio. So the main reasons not to get A/C is if the car is going to be used purely for the track, for a person with cash available to tie up for 30+ years as he waits for it to potentially become collectible or a buyer who likes to show he has the most hardcore version available.

The Z28 is the best analog to the 350r but can't speak to new Z28 values and what drives them because I don't know of anyone interested in owning one. Is there even enough info out there to show non-A/C trades at higher prices?

IMO a collector looking to buy the car and mothball it away for future value (say 30 years) probably would pick the non A/C R and this pool of buyers is small and once they own one they disappear from the market. With that said there is a much larger pool of buyers looking to track the car and drive it occasionally and therefore would make the near future used values higher for A/C cars. This is similar to the Boxster Spyder values I gave as an example earlier. At some point in the distance future the values of low low mileage non-AC cars may begin to reach parity and flip in favor of the non-AC. If someone is waiting for that to happen then they'll need to not drive it and the only joy is watching it sit in their garage.
 

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