GT Challenger - AWD

[MRGTX]

Typical troll come back

Call it whatever you want. Your persistent attempts to provoke me are the textbook definition of internet forum trolling...all because I like a car that you loathe.

What a ridiculous waste of time.

The part where you said the 5.7 was great. The styling of the Challenger is great but the 5.7 is a boat anchor.

I didn't think I was calling you a liar, just wrong.

I only drive cars that appeal to me. If they are good enough I will buy. Don't worry, I won't ever drive another car with a crap 5.7 in it. I won't waste anyone's time, including my own.

You don't like it...that's totally fair.
I think we're all guilty of occasionally stating our opinions as if they were facts. For whatever reason, your comments about the 5.7 seemed a bit more direct than usual internet opining. The clarification is appreciated.

Sponsored

 

[mustang_guy]

Call it whatever you want. Your persistent attempts to provoke me are the textbook definition of internet forum trolling...all because I like a car that you loathe.

What a ridiculous waste of time.



You don't like it...that's totally fair.
I think we're all guilty of occasionally stating our opinions as if they were facts. For whatever reason, your comments about the 5.7 seemed a bit more direct than usual internet opining. The clarification is appreciated.

If hes such a waste of time ignore him, hypocrite. Hes hardly a troll. He at least owns car chassis this forum is about.

 

[1320']

The part where you said the 5.7 was great. The styling of the Challenger is great but the 5.7 is a boat anchor.

I wouldn't go that far about the 5.7..

It should have been replaced a while ago..at it's core it was and still is an engine from 2002 that was designed to replace the absolutely ancient 360. I personally think the 5.7 should have been replaced with a detuned 392 in 2012, or even a destroked 392 (383 would have been a fun number for the base R/T).

However the 5.7 is a good motor for what the base R/T is supposed to be..it's terribly outclassed by the 5.0 and the LS3/LT1..but it's not the lump most people think it is.

 

[EcoVert]

Maybe if you actually read a magazine, you wouldn't have bought the Ecoboost convertible.

:headbonk:

You attacked me for having a Ecoboost Mustang at least I own the car that this forum is dedicated to and not on here trolling around causing trouble time to put you on ignore

 

[bluebeastsrt]

The part where you said the 5.7 was great. The styling of the Challenger is great but the 5.7 is a boat anchor.

I didn't think I was calling you a liar, just wrong.

I only drive cars that appeal to me. If they are good enough I will buy. Don't worry, I won't ever drive another car with a crap 5.7 in it. I won't waste anyone's time, including my own.

I'd drive a 5.7. but only if they stuck it in a car the size of a Miata.

 

[MRGTX]

Ha! Stick one in an ND Miata and that would be a catapult.

I am going to stick by in my opinion that it's a great engine...

A friend of mine just took home a brand new Charger R/T in B5 Blue...his "hobby car" is an amazing '71 Plymouth 'Cuda...and this is his new daily driver. He didn't buy it to be the fastest car on the road. His 'Cuda is terrifyingly fast. So that Charger with he 8spd auto and the 5.7L is just perfect.

Lots of torque, nice mellow V8 sound, respectable fuel economy for such a big car. IMO, the motor is a gem in the right application, possibly moreso in the Charger than in the Challenger that looks like it should be competing with the Camaro and Mustang.

Yes. Comparing the 5.7L to the Coyote or the LT-1, it comes up short as a hot rod engine. 99% of people realize this and buy accordingly.

If hes such a waste of time ignore him, hypocrite. Hes hardly a troll. He at least owns car chassis this forum is about.

Seriously? And you're responding to me.

This is like grammar school playground bs. Can we just get past this?
I checked the rules. Nowhere is there a proof of S550 ownership in the forum rules.

:cheers:

I'm a fan of all kinds of muscle cars. My two Mustangs have been sublime and I plan to own another one...I'm here to learn and hash out the differences before I decide which way to go. I'm extremely interested in seeing what happens with the 2018 model and the possible Mach1 which is what brought me back here.

Where would you recommend that someone go to accomplish this?

As for our friend, go back and look at some of the Mustang vs. Camaro threads. Ecovert (and a couple others) have a serious bug up his ass against anyone who is a fan of the *gasp* Camaro. It's like a tribal/religious and boy do they get nasty about it.

I just have to ask; if you can't handle disagreement or if you think the matter is settled (and Mustang is inarguably "the best") what the hell are you doing in the "Mustang Vs." forum? :doh:

You attacked me for having a Ecoboost Mustang at least I own the car that this forum is dedicated to and not on here trolling around causing trouble time to put you on ignore

Yes. At least. :clap2:

I read almost all of the current threads and while every once in a while, you offer something interesting, in general, I really don't see why you think you add something to the forum.

Take one look at your post history...you spend awfully large amount of time criticizing other forum members. I'm just not sure what kind of a reaction you expect.

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/search.php?searchid=4027060

 

[EcoVert]

I'd drive a 5.7. but only if they stuck it in a car the size of a Miata.

That's so true.

 

[Tm@c1965]

Actually the 5.7 is a very good motor

I had a 5.7 2013 RT before I bought my 14' SRT. The 5.7 had big torque and good HP for a large area of it's usable power curve. Peak HP is good, but many cars don't realize that power until high RPM is reached. For street driving, it makes for a very practical DD.

I've always been a proponent of the 6.4 because it comes with shorty headers, more aggressive cam, and more displacement. 392 cars come with Brembos all around and better suspensions.

My Blacktop RT had a TRAC Pac and was a decent performer. It needed a little more power to be a competitive car. Most owners bought them for Daily Driving in a quick car with V8 sound/manners. It delivered in that capacity.

But........Dodge has decided to stop making the 5.7 (2018 Café Regs).

You could make the argument that by doing this they are limiting choice. GM and Ford now offer a wider range of choices:

Turbo 4, V6 &V8. Dodge had the 5.7, and you could make the case that it was the equivalent of a V6 powered Stang or Slomaro.

The 5.7 offered a "torque-y" fun car with good muscle car drivability. It could be modded for those who raced. Most people who leave them stock simply want a car with good highway passing power...... and do not care about racing. How many here race?

It is a good looking car that is comfortable for our nation of "big shirt club " over eaters. The Stang and Slomaro have less room for the largest people on the planet. Challenger has a market in this area.

Stock for stock, I believe my RT was slightly faster than an ECO Stang. I solved the power problem with the 392.

 

[Hack]

5.7 - fuel economy of a V8, power of a V6. Yeah! What's not to love?

If I were trying to buy something practical, I wouldn't be buying a "muscle" car (although the 5.7 Challenger really shouldn't be called a muscle car IMO).

 

[1320']

5.7 - fuel economy of a V8, power of a V6. Yeah! What's not to love?

If I were trying to buy something practical, I wouldn't be buying a "muscle" car (although the 5.7 Challenger really shouldn't be called a muscle car IMO).

Show me a n/a V6 that puts out 400 ft lb's of torque and with just an intake and tune will hit 400 HP at the crank.

I'll wait.

 

[EcoVert]

However the 5.7 is a good motor for what the base R/T is supposed to be..it's terribly outclassed by the 5.0 and the LS3/LT1..but it's not the lump most people think it is.

Really for what it is the 5.7 isn't a bad motor I work in a parts store and haven't seen any problems they may have although I have given several ram truck owners heart attacks pricing them 16 spark plugs.

 

[1320']

Really for what it is the 5.7 isn't a bad motor I work in a parts store and haven't seen any problems they may have although I have given several ram truck owners heart attacks pricing them 16 spark plugs.

I worked for a large auto retain chain here in the NW in their wholesale warehouse...(Baxters Auto Parts, worked in the Performance Warehouse wholesale side)

"I need spark plugs for a 2010 Ram 1500"

"Hemi?"

"Yeah"

"Ok...Champion or up-brand?"

"Champion"

"Okay that'll be $XX.XX..."

"What!?!"

"Yup 16 plugs"

At least half the time that's how it would go.

 

[Tm@c1965]

Not all muscle cars need to be APEX cars like your GT350

5.7 - fuel economy of a V8, power of a V6. Yeah! What's not to love?

If I were trying to buy something practical, I wouldn't be buying a "muscle" car (although the 5.7 Challenger really shouldn't be called a muscle car IMO).

I like the V6 powered Stangs. They do not feel like a muscle car. The 5.7 Hemi delivers more Q earlier, through most of the power band, than a 5.0. Power at high RPM is very cool. But for daily street driving, having the torque available in most RPMs is good.

 

[1320']

I loved the 5.7 in my Challenger when I had it...and if I had ever wanted to make waaay more power I could have just pulled it out and dropped a stroker kit into it...bam, 392 stroker making an easy 450WHP.

 

[Hack]

I like the V6 powered Stangs. They do not feel like a muscle car. The 5.7 Hemi delivers more Q earlier, through most of the power band, than a 5.0. Power at high RPM is very cool. But for daily street driving, having the torque available in most RPMs is good.

I liked the 2011 V6 Mustang that I owned better than the 5.7 Hemi-powered Challenger.

Remember the V6 Mustang is waaaaay cheaper and relatively as quick. 34 mpg on longer highway trips was very easy to achieve as well.

Sponsored