Gremlins, Trans Issues, now Camber / Toe Issues...

[hawkbox]

So I gotta say - I am starting to become a bit disenchanted with my Pony - Its starting to seem like Ford has built a beautiful shell with crappy materials that is reminiscent of what companies all over did right around the 2008 market crash.

What I mean is if you paid close attention to restaurants and manufacturers of less notable durable goods during the 2008 crash - they made a choice to either increase their prices exponentially or reduce the quality of ingredients and materials they put into their products and selling them for the same price leading to a pretty plate that tasted like crap or goods that fell right apart.

Apply that to my 2018 GT PP1. Not such a pretty feeling.

So we are on our second of the 6G S550s, the first was a '15, a dream, and I should have just damn kept it, but it still had soft points and issues - the laggy trans was not my favorite and it had gremlins....

But this 18 ......ohhh this 18, with its 10 Spd and extra horses...but the issues are there and remind me that they are regularly. So - it has programming gremlins, the trany has bizarre crap that it does regularly - this morning making a right turn and stepping on the gas and having it not engage, no power just slowly roll out in front of on-coming traffic and having to lift off the gas and mash it to get the car to go, and its now the 3rd time this happened so its not an anomaly....to the 5th gear slamming into gear. Hrmmm...not to mention the other little nagging things, radio issues, dash weirdness.

And a factory car, no mods to have a camber prob so bad that it burned through half an inch of the inside front rubber with the outside having 1/2 life on them still in 18K is the new thing.....yeah. I dont race, I dont drive hard, never seen a track.

Yeah......So I am starting to feel like the facade is really pretty but the timber it was built with was not choice materials.

My guess is that we may be moving on very soon. I have bled blue a long time, but - this is becoming a bit ridiculous.

She may be for sale this weekend, which is sad - I have loved her.

Rant over. Thanks for reading.

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[Ecoboosted]

Sorry to hear. I also had a 15’ GT non PP that I should of kept because it would of been paid off by now but I hated that MT82 transmission. Biggest POS trans I ever owned. My next step was swapping the trans for a Maxim XL but before I did that I traded it for a C6 Vette. Always wanted a Vette but after a year I found myself not really wanting to drive it. Guess I got bored with it and wanted back in a Mustang.

This time I opted for the 10R80 because I didn’t want to take a chance on another MT82. So far my 18 GT PP has been pretty good except my PS4’s wore the inside of the tires pretty bad at 9K miles on all 4 tires. They were so damn noisy. I just swapped the factory PP wheels for RTR 9 x 9.5” square set up with Michelin pilot sport a/s 3+ 275/40-R19’s all around so I can rotate the tires at every oil change.

Currently getting my alignment done for the 3rd time in 2 weeks today because no one here can get it right including the clueless Ford alignment tech. Even after installing camber bolts up front and Steeda rear camber kit in the rear for easier rear camber adjustment.

Hopefully this new place can get it dialed in where I want it. I’m getting a less aggressive alignment for longer tire life because like you I don’t race it or do any canyon carving corner driving here just some spirited weekend driving.

Hopefully Ford can fix or replace your transmission. Get yourself a good alignment shop and fix that bad camber adjustment and get some new tires. Good luck.

 

[NoVaGT]

Sooooo.....

Tune the car and get an alignment. Easy peasy.

To type a mountain of words to explain that two little issues that are easily fixable, are turning you off to Ford & Mustangs, is rather silly.

All cars have issues. All of them. Every single one of them.

We live in a truly 1st World Problem automotive market, when the two issues after 18K miles are the need for a tune and an alignment.

It's a good thing you never owned any 70s or 80s cars. Talk about piles of junk!!!

 

[IronG]

So I gotta say - I am starting to become a bit disenchanted with my Pony - Its starting to seem like Ford has built a beautiful shell with crappy materials that is reminiscent of what companies all over did right around the 2008 market crash.

What I mean is if you paid close attention to restaurants and manufacturers of less notable durable goods during the 2008 crash - they made a choice to either increase their prices exponentially or reduce the quality of ingredients and materials they put into their products and selling them for the same price leading to a pretty plate that tasted like crap or goods that fell right apart.

Apply that to my 2018 GT PP1. Not such a pretty feeling.

So we are on our second of the 6G S550s, the first was a '15, a dream, and I should have just damn kept it, but it still had soft points and issues - the laggy trans was not my favorite and it had gremlins....

But this 18 ......ohhh this 18, with its 10 Spd and extra horses...but the issues are there and remind me that they are regularly. So - it has programming gremlins, the trany has bizarre crap that it does regularly - this morning making a right turn and stepping on the gas and having it not engage, no power just slowly roll out in front of on-coming traffic and having to lift off the gas and mash it to get the car to go, and its now the 3rd time this happened so its not an anomaly....to the 5th gear slamming into gear. Hrmmm...not to mention the other little nagging things, radio issues, dash weirdness.

And a factory car, no mods to have a camber prob so bad that it burned through half an inch of the inside front rubber with the outside having 1/2 life on them still in 18K is the new thing.....yeah. I dont race, I dont drive hard, never seen a track.

Yeah......So I am starting to feel like the facade is really pretty but the timber it was built with was not choice materials.

My guess is that we may be moving on very soon. I have bled blue a long time, but - this is becoming a bit ridiculous.

She may be for sale this weekend, which is sad - I have loved her.

Rant over. Thanks for reading.

You are in the wrong section of the forum. Please post this stuff in the technical section unless you were just being whiney then I guess it is ok.

 

[o-man]

I know nothing of the transmission issues, but when was the last time your car had an alignment done? Sounds like toe wear more so than camber

 

[hawkbox]

Sooooo.....

Tune the car and get an alignment. Easy peasy.

To type a mountain of words to explain that two little issues that are easily fixable, are turning you off to Ford & Mustangs, is rather silly.

All cars have issues. All of them. Every single one of them.

We live in a truly 1st World Problem automotive market, when the two issues after 18K miles are the need for a tune and an alignment.

It's a good thing you never owned any 70s or 80s cars. Talk about piles of junk!!!

LOL First world problems indeed - along with being pissed and posting after applying liberal amounts of Scotch....

Dude - you are right thank god these aren't the '70's, '80s, and '90s cars.

I have had all of the above - The fox bodies were awesome with a built motor and a blower / "tune-up". My '96 GT was the biggest pile of crap I have ever had, it spent more time going up and down than forward and backward! I still had a Ford after that!

However with known issues I don't want to throw a tune on a car that will kill my warranty when I know the trans is already problematic and has been since like 6K miles!

A tune isn't going to fix my transmission issues unfortunately - its been back to Ford a couple times for that - its more than a software issue in the design is all I can see. The whole no power while in a right turn thing is scary as eff.

As for the stupid alignment - yeah - was just pissed that a year and a half old car was there already. 20K on soft tires is pretty good but its a miss on the build that it did what it did.

The electrical gremlins are certainly not going to get fixed - just damn annoying - again more QC "we will patch it in production" mindset from ford on those - that's what happens when you let the dollar override good development. I see it in my professional life all day long.

 

[NoVaGT]

LOL First world problems indeed - along with being pissed and posting after applying liberal amounts of Scotch....

Dude - you are right thank god these aren't the '70's, '80s, and '90s cars.

I have had all of the above - The fox bodies were awesome with a built motor and a blower / "tune-up". My '96 GT was the biggest pile of crap I have ever had, it spent more time going up and down than forward and backward! I still had a Ford after that!

However with known issues I don't want to throw a tune on a car that will kill my warranty when I know the trans is already problematic and has been since like 6K miles!

A tune isn't going to fix my transmission issues unfortunately - its been back to Ford a couple times for that - its more than a software issue in the design is all I can see. The whole no power while in a right turn thing is scary as eff.

As for the stupid alignment - yeah - was just pissed that a year and a half old car was there already. 20K on soft tires is pretty good but its a miss on the build that it did what it did.

The electrical gremlins are certainly not going to get fixed - just damn annoying - again more QC "we will patch it in production" mindset from ford on those - that's what happens when you let the dollar override good development. I see it in my professional life all day long.

Keep in mind....a tune will not kill your warranty. And all you'd really want out of a tune is better transmission tuning, you wouldn't really need to do anything like a 93 Race tune on the ECM if you didn't want to.

What I'd suggest, is spend the $400 or so, and try the tune for the transmission. Then if it doesn't fix the issue, return the car to stock. But, it's your $400 or so, so you have to decide if it's the right choice for you, since it's not guaranteed.

 

[hawkbox]

Keep in mind....a tune will not kill your warranty. And all you'd really want out of a tune is better transmission tuning, you wouldn't really need to do anything like a 93 Race tune on the ECM if you didn't want to.

What I'd suggest, is spend the $400 or so, and try the tune for the transmission. Then if it doesn't fix the issue, return the car to stock. But, it's your $400 or so, so you have to decide if it's the right choice for you, since it's not guaranteed.

Its not the $400 bucks that concerns me, that's small change for a fix - My concern is that since this is one of the earlier build '18s that its a valve body issue or the likes in the trans. Its the $3 - 4000 dollar fix if I were to do that and get challenged by Ford on why the software had been changed. They can check flags on that.

Also - I can make the car do some of the issues in paddle mode...

A patch won't fix those behaviors in paddle mode will it? I have never heard anyone discuss that so not clear on that one?

 

[NoVaGT]

Its not the $400 bucks that concerns me, that's small change for a fix - My concern is that since this is one of the earlier build '18s that its a valve body issue or the likes in the trans. Its the $3 - 4000 dollar fix if I were to do that and get challenged by Ford on why the software had been changed. They can check flags on that.

Also - I can make the car do some of the issues in paddle mode...

A patch won't fix those behaviors in paddle mode will it? I have never heard anyone discuss that so not clear on that one?

They can only tell the car was ever tuned, based on the number of on/off cycles the car has gone through. So if you tune it, don't like it, and return it to stock, no one will ever know, because you'll just have missed a very few on/off cycles.

But, to be objective, the dealership service departments don't care. They've repaired my vehicle under warranty many times, even with visually obvious mods like suspension stuff, when they replaced my rear wheel bearings. In fact all 3 of my Mustangs have been tuned, and there's never been the slightest issue with warranty repairs, not even once. Including intake manifolds, gas tank replacements, etc.

I try to explain this to everyone; as long as you're nice to the SAs and techs, there is no issues with tuning or basic mods, they'll be ignored. There's no one form Ford at dealership service departments looking at software codes, that just doesn't happen.

And in fact, there has never been a single first-hand report of denial of warranty repair reported on this site. Not one. The dealership service departments just want to do the work and get paid by Ford. It's in their best interests to ignore mods, even visible ones.

Relax, nothing is going to harm your warranty. If you're comfortable with a $400 roll of the dice, try tuning the trans.

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