GR340 - Down and Out

[Voodooo]

I haven't heard of a "quick" engine replacement from any manufacturer under warranty. They want to understand what broke and if its a design or part manufacture problem. I'm sure everyone of these prompts more than a few pages of paperwork and meetings in Dearborn. This is part of the risk that comes with being an early adopter of a first-year engine.

This is not acceptable! While the customer keeps making monthly car payments ford is dragging ass! Their is no reason why they can't replace it with a brand new engine and get it back into the owners hands. Ford can take the shit engine back to their lab and diagnosis it there. No reason to delay the owners car, it's bad enough they paid a mark up and waited months and months to receive the car. If a failed engine is because of owner mods or neglect that I can understand, but otherwise no way. My local dealer received its blown gt350 and the second day had the new engine and that was a month ago and the owner still doesn't have his car back. The new engine is installed and just sitting there. I'd be pissed.

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[Voodooo]

1 month to knowing IF a fix is coming is understandable. Enough time for the dealer and techs to diagnose if it was done by customer or if it was a defect and provide warranty. Part failure meetings at Ford engineering won't hold this up, that team is there to find out if the issue (customer inflicted or not) is a legitimate issue. They don't care about the warranty process, they just try and find out if issues will be wide-spread and demand a recall or not.

I just want to know what the time table looks like for repairs to this car.

When I was picking up parts awhile ago at my dealer I seen the guy from ford and he said he's the only one in the country that inspects the gt350 engine problems. He was inspecting the blown voodoo that day and said it would be replaced. Two days later the new replacement engine was at the dealer and it's installed and still sitting there a month later. Wrong way to treat a customer.

 

[Voodooo]

Fringers crossed here as well... Shredded belt took out the radiador tank or some coolant lines in thinking???. So chalk it up to faulty belt I'm hoping nothing major and we can all sleep tonight.

My guess is if the belts came off the car over heated and the coolant puked. Usually when a belt comes off it won't rip off a hose. The question is what caused the belt to come off in the first place. Could be a misalignment issue, seized pulley, etc.

 

[Voodooo]

Op. Thank God you noticed your gauges and pulled off the track. Anti freeze and tires don't mix. Could of been worse!

 

[RadBOSS]

Any of these failures associated with a missed down shift as in one too far resulting in mechanically over revving the engine.. I did that with a SVT Contour with that yama hopper engine and the water pump disintegrated.

 

[MisterGT]

Glad your car is ok and it was a minor issue

I understand why you didn't post the whole story from the beginning in case ford read it happened while racing, but then why post it at all? If you had included all the information from the beginning Im sure guys wouldn't have been jumping on the "another blown motor" bandwagon. Your original post made it sound like your motor just blew up while you were out for a Sunday drive with aunt mable and you got stuck on the side of the road in the wrong part of town and the sky was falling

Go read my original post. I stated that both belts were off and cooling drained. I left it to you all to decide what to think. Nothing different, other than I included the story. I could have been on a Sunday drive (would that have changed anyone's thoughts?). I just prefer to be safe, in case it was something more serious. Knowing the full story today, I could have posted the full story originally. Hindsight is 20/20. :cheers:

 

[Goofball]

So I'm relieved here a bit. Just a belt problem. But like Voodooo says... Why? Mis aligned pulleys? Bad run of belts? Belts that simple can't handle high rpm? Hopefully an easy fix for us all though.

 

[RadBOSS]

That's what a warranty is for - nothing to fear.

Actually there is if you are relying on a ESP. If you are using the car for any form of competitive driving or racing, the vehicle likely is excluded. Not sure what the terms are for the warranty included with the car when purchased but same exclusion likely applies. If in doubt, read the fine print.

 

[MisterGT]

Well... old post with an update. Car has broken another belt. Appears that my car breaks them about every 1000 miles. It looks like the belt breaking damaged some electrical wiring and did cosmetic damage to a cooling line. Their must be an pulley alignment issue or something. Anyone have any ideas what would cause two belts to break on a new car with barely 2,000 miles? Back to the dealer for another round of troubleshooting. :frusty:

 

[Voodooo]

Pics of the belt and pulleys please

 

[dron_jones]

Well... old post with an update. Car has broken another belt. Appears that my car breaks them about every 1000 miles. It looks like the belt breaking damaged some electrical wiring and did cosmetic damage to a cooling line. Their must be an pulley alignment issue or something. Anyone have any ideas what would cause two belts to break on a new car with barely 2,000 miles? Back to the dealer for another round of troubleshooting. :frusty:

When they are replacing the engine are they replacing the accessories and associated pulleys as well or are they migrating all that stuff from the old engine onto the new engine?

 

[MisterGT]

When they are replacing the engine are they replacing the accessories and associated pulleys as well or are they migrating all that stuff from the old engine onto the new engine?

No engine swapping here. The serpentine belt for the accessories keeps wearing out and breaking. Looking for feedback on what would generally cause this? Anyone else experience it. Twice in 2,000 miles is extreme in my opinion. Thanks.

 

[scarface]

Speaking from personal experience, when it comes to replacing an engine, it could take a min. of 3months. Back in 1996, I bought a brand new E36 M3. With about 3000 miles on the odometer, I pulled onto the freeway ramp, shifting from 2nd into3rd hear when I heard a pop, followed by smoke. There was a hole the size of a baseball on the side of my engine and most of the cylinder metal ended up in my exhaust. The M3 was towed to the nearest dealer. I had a loaner and several days later I got a call from the dealer that a top engineer and a mechanic from BMW NA will be flying out to inspect my car to find if it's apart failure or human error. I talked to the BMW NA engineer, he said it will take several months to run data, inspect all the parts, and communicating with BMW AG. Make the story short, they towed the car to the nearest HQ, and they found that the engine mount was the weak point, causing the engine to move slightly that when shifting into 3rd at redline, it actually shifted into 1st gear. BMW NA issued a recall on the E36 M3 replacing engine mounts for the 3.0L, they also offered to replace my motor. Instead I took the cash ($12k), towed the car to Dinan (BMW tuner), had them installed 3.2L European spec engine with 6 throttle bodies and a host of other goodies. Point it, don't expect a quick turnaround, there are a number of different departments, from mechanics, engineers, designers, etc...involved to find what the weak point is and then a solution for it.

 

[lemers]

If ford says they are just going to replace the belt again, you need to ask them to diagnose why it keeps breaking. Don't let them just keep treating the symptom.

 

[Bender]

First thing to do is check alignment of pulley and look for edges in the belt track. If there is a rough edge it could be wearing through the belt

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