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https://www.mynbc5.com/article/carbon-emissions-pizza-ovens-new-york-city/44360770

The New York City Department of Environmental Protection wants to crack down on carbon emissions from coal and wood-fired pizza ovens. Pizzerias with ovens installed before 2016 would be required to buy so-called "emission-control devices" to reduce total emissions by 75 percent, according to officials.

I think I saw where one private plane crossing the country emits more Co2 than one of these ovens does in 80 years.

But hey, save the Planet.......... :crazy:
Hello; Saw a TV interview today with a NYC pizzeria owner. He explained they use antracite coal. That type coal burns cleaner than other coal types. These naked pushes in the name of saving the planet are reaching extremes. Before long some of the devotees will start to figure out things they like or depend upon will be on the chopping block. They may not be willing to have the coming "do -without" lifestyle.

Say in a few decades the "green" energy and BEV agendas are realised. They will have exchanged one form environmental pollution/issues for another. different to be sure but overall cleaner???
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Ford to cut jobs amid EV push, Volkswagen reduces EV production on weak sales

Ford plans to cut hundreds of jobs amid its $50 billion EV push, while Volkswagen is set to cut back on production of its EV sedan as demand falters.
Hello; Even with the incentives and looming mandates.
 

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More fear mongering.
 

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Ford to cut jobs amid EV push, Volkswagen reduces EV production on weak sales

Ford plans to cut hundreds of jobs amid its $50 billion EV push, while Volkswagen is set to cut back on production of its EV sedan as demand falters.
Yes, Ford are cutting (predominantly) engineering jobs. EV’s don’t require as much engineering.
A friend of mine is an engineer at Ford. We spoke about this last week. He’s looking at taking a redundancy package. It’s a win, not a loss. Plenty of engineering jobs around, better pay too. The redundancy package will just be a lovely windfall for him.

VW are NOT reducing their (total) EV production. They are reducing the production of certain EV models, along with the production of some ICE models. Why would you be producing low sales volume vehicles in a market where you can’t build enough cars to begin with?
VW’s total EV production is expanding. Quite rapidly actually.
 

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Yes, Ford are cutting (predominantly) engineering jobs. EV’s don’t require as much engineering.
A friend of mine is an engineer at Ford. We spoke about this last week. He’s looking at taking a redundancy package. It’s a win, not a loss. Plenty of engineering jobs around, better pay too. The redundancy package will just be a lovely windfall for him.

VW are NOT reducing their (total) EV production. They are reducing the production of certain EV models, along with the production of some ICE models. Why would you be producing low sales volume vehicles in a market where you can’t build enough cars to begin with?
VW’s total EV production is expanding. Quite rapidly actually.
Hello; A bold statement.
 

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Yes, Ford are cutting (predominantly) engineering jobs. EV’s don’t require as much engineering.
A friend of mine is an engineer at Ford. We spoke about this last week. He’s looking at taking a redundancy package. It’s a win, not a loss. Plenty of engineering jobs around, better pay too. The redundancy package will just be a lovely windfall for him.

VW are NOT reducing their (total) EV production. They are reducing the production of certain EV models, along with the production of some ICE models. Why would you be producing low sales volume vehicles in a market where you can’t build enough cars to begin with?
VW’s total EV production is expanding. Quite rapidly actually.
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What, the information didn’t fit your narrative?
Here’s what you need to know:


“The wider Volkswagen Group delivered 572,100 all-electric vehicles to buyers in 2022, up 26 per cent year-on-year (YoY).

Accordingly, the Group’s EV sales accounted for 6.9 per cent of its total, up from a 5.1 per cent share in 2021 and just 2.5 per cent in 2020. In the course of 2022, additional sites in Emden, Hanover and Chattanooga started to produce EVs.

However the performance could have been far greater, with VW Group claiming to hold a staggering 310,000 BEV backorders in Western Europe alone, as it navigates crippling supply chain shortages on the back of COVID and Russia’s Ukraine invasion.”
 

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What, the information didn’t fit your narrative?
Here’s what you need to know:


“The wider Volkswagen Group delivered 572,100 all-electric vehicles to buyers in 2022, up 26 per cent year-on-year (YoY).

Accordingly, the Group’s EV sales accounted for 6.9 per cent of its total, up from a 5.1 per cent share in 2021 and just 2.5 per cent in 2020. In the course of 2022, additional sites in Emden, Hanover and Chattanooga started to produce EVs.

However the performance could have been far greater, with VW Group claiming to hold a staggering 310,000 BEV backorders in Western Europe alone, as it navigates crippling supply chain shortages on the back of COVID and Russia’s Ukraine invasion.”
Touchy, touchy. I was speaking of the highlighted paragraph about your friend, nothing else. :like:Remember the 6g motto:

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Touchy, touchy. I was speaking of the highlighted paragraph about your friend, nothing else. :like:Remember the 6g motto:

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The friend isn’t an anecdote either, Ford are looking to offload about 400 staff here in Australia. They‘ve already offered the first round of voluntary redundancies, apparently around 170 were on offer, and now they’re into the second round, not sure on the figure for that sorry.

Point being, MOST of those positions are in engineering and the like.

But don’t take my word for it, here’s some further info:

https://www.news.com.au/finance/bus...g/news-story/bb3a58b1394d8df07e9363d15724b787
 

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The friend isn’t an anecdote either, Ford are looking to offload about 400 staff here in Australia. They‘ve already offered the first round of voluntary redundancies, apparently around 170 were on offer, and now they’re into the second round, not sure on the figure for that sorry.

Point being, MOST of those positions are in engineering and the like.

But don’t take my word for it, here’s some further info:

https://www.news.com.au/finance/bus...g/news-story/bb3a58b1394d8df07e9363d15724b787
Hello; The following quotes from the link do not paint such a rosy picture.

"Unions have since blasted the move as “just another wave of the previous government’s destruction of the vehicle industry”. "

"The redundancies will be voluntary and will not take effect until September this year. "

"The Australian Manufacturing Workers’ Union (AMWU) said the announcement came as “disheartening news”. "

"“We understand that this news will be difficult for many workers and their families, and we want to ensure they have all the resources they need."
 

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The friend isn’t an anecdote either, Ford are looking to offload about 400 staff here in Australia. They‘ve already offered the first round of voluntary redundancies, apparently around 170 were on offer, and now they’re into the second round, not sure on the figure for that sorry.

Point being, MOST of those positions are in engineering and the like.

But don’t take my word for it, here’s some further info:

https://www.news.com.au/finance/bus...g/news-story/bb3a58b1394d8df07e9363d15724b787
Oh, I know car manufacturers are laying off workers. As sk47 pointed out sometimes ”voluntary” is not as voluntary as it is made out to be.
 

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”Muh gubment” at work. 🤡 What a waste.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/great-grift-more-200-billion-175720136.html

The Associated Press reported June 13 that scammers and swindlers potentially swiped about $280 billion in COVID-19 emergency aid; an additional $123 billion was wasted or misspent.“

“The federal government has now reported $276 billion in potential fraud, a figure that aligns with the AP’s analysis.”

In the meantime:

https://www.usdebtclock.org/

United States National Debt$32,273,292,385,622.84United States National Debt Per Person$94,704.89United States National Debt Per Household$245,285.66Total US Unfunded Liabilities$123,262,358,689,006.23Social Security Unfunded Liability$15,105,504,234,957.33Medicare Unfunded Liability$79,014,181,539,953.56Prescription Drug Unfunded Liability$19,941,650,098,070.01National Healthcare Unfunded Liability$9,201,022,816,025.33Total US Unfunded Liabilities Per Person$361,709.24Total US Unfunded Liabilities Per Household$936,826.93United States Population340,777,468
 
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”Muh gubment” at work. 🤡 What a waste.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/great-grift-more-200-billion-175720136.html

The Associated Press reported June 13 that scammers and swindlers potentially swiped about $280 billion in COVID-19 emergency aid; an additional $123 billion was wasted or misspent.“

“The federal government has now reported $276 billion in potential fraud, a figure that aligns with the AP’s analysis.”

In the meantime:

https://www.usdebtclock.org/

United States National Debt$32,273,292,385,622.84United States National Debt Per Person$94,704.89United States National Debt Per Household$245,285.66Total US Unfunded Liabilities$123,262,358,689,006.23Social Security Unfunded Liability$15,105,504,234,957.33Medicare Unfunded Liability$79,014,181,539,953.56Prescription Drug Unfunded Liability$19,941,650,098,070.01National Healthcare Unfunded Liability$9,201,022,816,025.33Total US Unfunded Liabilities Per Person$361,709.24Total US Unfunded Liabilities Per Household$936,826.93United States Population340,777,468
Hello; Likely the debt per household of $245,285 can be stated as debt per taxpayer. I have seen similar debt charts which list it that way. What that tells me is over half the population do not pay income taxes.
The unfunded liabilities part has funds meant to go that same half + of the population who do not pay taxes.

Seems there will be more millions of people who will have to have their met by someone else after they crossed the border the last few years. I already see reports of many millions being spent to fed and house folks from other places. That has to add to the debt.
 

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Hello; Likely the debt per household of $245,285 can be stated as debt per taxpayer. I have seen similar debt charts which list it that way. What that tells me is over half the population do not pay income taxes.
The unfunded liabilities part has funds meant to go that same half + of the population who do not pay taxes.

Seems there will be more millions of people who will have to have their met by someone else after they crossed the border the last few years. I already see reports of many millions being spent to fed and house folks from other places. That has to add to the debt.
I didn’t see debt per household on the real time table, but it did show - debt per citizen - $96,126. :thumbsup:
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