GM is pulling back on EVs

[jtmat]

Humans affect the environment by being alive. Billions of humans are going to mess with the environment. The end game extended to a logical conclusion is we humans need to be subservient to wildlife/natures needs.

Goodbye; I'm still wondering about the impact of creating all of this renewable energy... I keep reading different things like we don't have enough resources to complete the plan (i.e. switch to EVs, solar, etc...), the ultimate impact is worse, etc. I've not really dug into it... not a space I really concern myself with much outside of this crazy thread. Well, outside of the tech, which I am interested in....

I guess we should just go away.

Yea, we know how you feel about that. I remember when you said you believe there are too many humans on earth. That was when I was talking about COVID killing too many Americans. Then you went on to explain you thought there were too many humans on earth and that is why you never had kids.

I won't forget that one...

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[Burkey]

"recognise that it allowed those people to find new opportunities?
At what point will you recognise and" How about recognize?

Wait what? I’m being schooled in English spelling by an American? LMFAO

English. A language created by the English (with some help from the Germanic tribes and others of course) and later bastardised (with an s) by both Americans and Australians alike.

Fortunately, the Aussies tend to spell the words correctly (but invent new ones quite frequently) rather than adopting new spellings of existing words.

CENTRE. TYRE. COLOUR. And yes, sceptic with a C, not a K.. Also, replacing the S with a Z is an American phenomenon. Oh, and it’s ZED, not ZEE, but thanks for trying to correct me.

Luckily, the US didn’t go full phonics. A word like trough would‘ve become troff, through would be thru and god only knows what might’ve happened with their/they’re/there if the semi-illiterate “teachers” had been left in charge for long enough. Frankly, I’m surprised something so confusing to so many somehow survived the American “shitterfication” process (that verb appears to be an Aussie invention, feel free to use it).

Once again, you‘ve just been exposed to a learning opportunity. You’re welcome.
What a vacuum you must live in.

I’ll be the first to admit that my punctuation isn’t brilliant, but I’m not about to “school” someone for using tire instead of tyre. On this forum, that would be very TIRING.
Zzzzzzzzzz (zed zed zed zed….)

 

[Tinpot]

You forgot 'lighted'.....

 

[sk47]

Yea, we know how you feel about that. I remember when you said you believe there are too many humans on earth. That was when I was talking about COVID killing too many Americans. Then you went on to explain you thought there were too many humans on earth and that is why you never had kids.

I won't forget that one...

Hello; Another sidetrack I see. I caught on to how you tried to imply my ZPG stance of 50 years ago is like Covid killing people. Nice try but will not fly. Also underhanded and dirty but such is not unusual.

Back 50 years ago there were indeed billions fewer people on earth. I had recently finished up studies about population biology. The human population was expected to increase exponentially and indeed it has done so. The fear was that such a large population would increase environmental issues as it has done.
The stance I took was not about killing people. It was called Zero Population Growth (ZPG). That notion was if a couple limited the number of children to two, that would stabilize the population at the number of the time. By the 1970's there were plenty of birth control methods proven to prevent unwanted pregnancies. Including condoms, birth control pills and more. A far cry, in my mind, from killing anyone especially since I did not personally include abortion in the mix.
By the mid 1970's it was clear to me that plan was not going to be adopted by enough people to make any difference. It seemed to me back then the human population would indeed explode. As it turns out such did happen.

My choice was to have a vasectomy around 1975 or so. I was in my mid-twenties at the time. Did my action make much difference? No, the population is very high and may be beyond some tipping points. Whether you or any others agree with my action makes no impact on me. I am comfortable with my choice. However, I do not want my action conflated with killing people. I harmed no one. My intention was to help keep a stable and sustainable population which would benefit all of us. But i get it. That cause was lost and here we all are.

The children i did not father are not having their own children and grandchildren and so are not competing for resources today and have not for over 50 years.

EDIT- Worldometer - real time world statistics (worldometers.info)

 

[key01]

Hey guys. Maybe use the ignore function. This is getting really old and we have lost any discussion of EV.

 

[sk47]

Hey guys. Maybe use the ignore function. This is getting really old and we have lost any discussion of EV.

Hello; Agreed. The most recent sidetrack goes back to post # 236.

 

[kz]

On topic of GM pulling back (since this thread got really really really weird) - Hybrid Corvette enters the chat. Can bet fully electric one is next.

Also - recent Tesla price drop. Not only generated an earthquake in used car market but model 3 is back to affordable. Considering getting one but do I need 5th vehicle....

 

[Gregs24]

On topic of GM pulling back (since this thread got really really really weird) - Hybrid Corvette enters the chat. Can bet fully electric one is next.

Also - recent Tesla price drop. Not only generated an earthquake in used car market but model 3 is back to affordable. Considering getting one but do I need 5th vehicle....

I would hold fire on that. The impact of the Tesla price cut has yet to work through to other car makers. There are plenty of good alternatives to Tesla

 

[BEERCHAMP]

Just wait until the countries in which everyone is relying on the rare earth minerals needed for EV batteries start to uprise for their slave labor…. It’s going to happen, because there’s going to be realization that they’re not benefitting from many of the profits that Corp XYZ is making off their backs.

A digging out all that rare earth minerals using Diesel powered cranes, dozers, dump trucks etc. doesn't save the Green project at all.
By the time our world really needs something to fight climate change, we will have developed a solution, EVs, Windmills, solar panels are a bandage that will never be the solution.
Better Technology that seems to show up every 5-10 years will be the answer.(may be 50 years) but we will survive.

 

[Burkey]

Better Technology that seems to show up every 5-10 years will be the answer.(may be 50 years) but we will survive.

I totally agree. Even now there’s research taking place into aluminium (that’s aluminum to you SK47), salt, iron etc.
The iron batteries that I’ve seen (for grid storage, not EV use) look pretty interesting, relying on rust. Efficiency is low, meaning larger tracts of land to situate them on, but as far as recyclability and ease of mining, they tick those boxes.

Who knows what the future might hold?

 

[Tinpot]

Batteries from trees:
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/...om-wood?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB

 

[key01]

Batteries from trees:
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/...om-wood?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB

very promising as long as it is sustainable. This is the type of smart thinking that can potentially help move the electrification of cars forward by making use of what is already a byproduct( Lignin) of another process. Very cool.

 

[sk47]

Batteries from trees:
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/...om-wood?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB

Hello; A potato can be a source of electricity at low demand levels. Seen that sort of demonstration a few times. Back in my 1960's high school days there were Popular Science and Popular Mechanics magazines. All sorts of future possible ideas in each edition. Tha magazines continued to be published until a few years ago I know for sure as I had a subscription to PM not too long ago. Even in the recent tears there were possible future innovations still being written about.
Some of these ideas did sort of come about. A Dick Tracy sort of communication device we now have as cell phones is a good example. However, a lot of the ideas never made it for one reason or another. Sometimes as simple as the tech did not improve enough. Sometimes a cost factor in terms that the new thing was too expensive to replace some existing tech which did the job at a less expensive cost.
Sometimes the tech is just too something to use on the street. Turbine cars for example. Turbine cars can and have been made which do run. Andy Granatelli almost won the Indy 500 with one. I think Chrysler built a street prototype. Problems included the noise and the hot exhaust when on the street.

My point is these ideas for potential game changers are exciting. I hope some do work out as we will need practical new tech. There was such a new idea over 12 years ago I recall. The item was a liquid battery system. The idea was a charged liquid could run a vehicle and when the charge was depleted the used liquid was to be drained out and replaced with fresh charged liquid. The discharged liquid was then to be charged up to be reused again. That would have made an EV similar to an ICE. Pull into the service center and in a few minutes drive away with a fresh charge. I only saw the one article about the idea so do not know why it never worked out.

My guess is any who have confidence in the above linked battery tech might get to invest in the company. If it works out, you will be an early investor and do well. Of course, so many of these ideas do fail for varied reasons. I am not that sort of risk taker so will pass.

 

[sk47]

Deep Dive Into Rooftop Wind Energy [Aeromine] - YouTube

Hello; I have not studied this much yet. I think it uses the Bernoulli effect as a working principle???

 

[sk47]

GM Confirms a New Small-Block V8 Is Coming (msn.com)

Hello; Likely had the engineering in progress for a while. Could be the last new version of the GM small block????

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