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LOL I am aware the Op has and R and at 80 mph the down force is minuscule.
Exactly, unless you're in the triple digit zone, you're not gaining much downforce from the splitter. On the other hand if you're running a doule decker sushi table rear wing......:)
 
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I'm amazed at how many of you guys know how much downforce these cars achieve... Simply amazed!
 

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1. Limp mode on tech package
2. Oil filters coming off
3. Front splitter coming off


At what point will all the Ford appolagists take the Ford Dildo out of their mouths and quit defending all these issues that will scar the reputation of an otherwise great car?
 

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I said "80+ mph"... And when I track the car, that will be a constant.

There is considerable downforce on these splitters at 80mph and above... If that were not the case hey wouldn't have been placed on the car.
DUH! For the track sure! on long straights, well north of 80+ where the down force will add stability. Street driving though...FOGEDABOUID lol
 

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DUH! For the track sure! on long straights, well north of 80+ where the down force will add stability. Street driving though...FOGEDABOUID lol
Smh... Could you please inform us all as to the differences on a track at 80+ and on a street at 80+, assuming the atmosphere at the track is the same one as here on planet Earth? :ninja:
 

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I'm amazed at how many of you guys know how much downforce these cars achieve... Simply amazed!
Nobody thus far in this thread or in the many I have followed have suggested they know the actual down force provided by the R and TP. Shoot! not even Ford has released numerical data. We know they provide DF becuase, either 1 Ford said so or 2 those of us that have actually tracked a GT350. Their is a difference between DF and Drag and unless you are driving around at very high speeds on the steet reaping DF benefits, the splitter is just drag.
 

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Smh... Could you please inform us all as to the differences on a track at 80+ and on a street at 80+, assuming the atmosphere at the track is the same one as here on planet Earth? :ninja:
key words "well north of 80+" lol
 

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key words "well north of 80+" lol
Ok what's the difference in 80mph on the road and 80mph on the road with a 30mph head wind?

Both are legal limits, on will have more force on the splitter.
 

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Ultimately the splitters effectivnes depends on its size and the air dam. The bigger the surface area of the splitter the lower the speed at which it is beneficial. The splitters on the 350's in conjunction with the dam work at about 80mph but are not really effective until reaching much higher speeds. There is just not enough air pressure at lower speeds for bernoull's principal to be effective.
 

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Nobody thus far in this thread or in the many I have followed have suggested they know the actual down force provided by the R and TP. Shoot! not even Ford has released numerical data. We know they provide DF becuase, either 1 Ford said so or 2 those of us that have actually tracked a GT350. Their is a difference between DF and Drag and unless you are driving around at very high speeds on the steet reaping DF benefits, the splitter is just drag.
Smh... Ok, I'll play.

"Rather than simply reducing lift, Pericak says the GT350R’s splitter and rear wing actually help produce “fantastic downforce” that pushes the car toward the ground. “That wing was designed out on the race track,” he says. “It wasn’t just some wing that the [design] studio came up with and we said, ‘Wow, does that look cool.'”

Unfortunately, because the GT350R isn’t quite ready for production, Pericak won’t give a specific downforce number so as not to mislead us before the car hits showrooms: 'We’re still fine tuning it.'"
http://www.automobilemag.com/news/6-things-we-learned-about-the-ford-shelby-gt350r-mustang/

So, more "downforce" than a GT3 is very impressive, and no doubt, the front splitter contributes to that aero package. As for drag vs. downforce, I one can't exist without the other, but it sounds as though the downforce has been maximized on this car to achieve handling above that of any other road-going Mustang. That being said, I'm sure there is more drag and downforce on an R than a 350TrP or GT solely because there is more surface area and because neither of the lessers create more downforce than a GT3.

So, as speed increases the downforce climbs, but drag remains constant, unless the car has some way of modifying the exposed surface area, of which it has no "active aero". Hope this helps.
 
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Ultimately the splitters effectivnes depends on its size and the air dam. The bigger the surface area of the splitter the lower the speed at which it is beneficial. The splitters on the 350's in conjunction with the dam work at about 80mph but are not really effective until reaching much higher speeds. There is just not enough air pressure at lower speeds for bernoull's principal to be effective.
I see you consulted a higher power... Good work, and this is what I have been trying to tell you all along. Smh.
 

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I see you consulted a higher power... Good work, and this is what I have been trying to tell you all along. Smh.
Higher power lol yeah 20 years of Amy Aviation experience to include over 2k flight hours lol
 
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Higher power lol yeah 20 years of Amy Aviation experience to include over 2k flight hours lol
And evidently not enough time in the spelling simulator.

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