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Hello; Not clear which part was of more interest in todays race. Did not expect Russell to be so strong. Had figured he could not maintain the pace, but he did.
Max was doing Max stuff again.

The McLarens appear to have caught some of what has infected Ferrari the last few years. I suspect the bosses of McLaren are happy today even if their drivers are not. Lucky, they did not take each other out.

The internet pop ups are frequent with punishments. I have not yet read the story about LH. Maybe he will do us all a favor and retire.
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I have not yet read the story about LH. Maybe he will do us all a favor and retire.
He's probably wondering when was the last time you did him a favor. 🙄
 

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He's probably wondering when was the last time you did him a favor. 🙄
Hello; Of course he does not know I exist. Nor should he. I vaguely recall liking him many years ago briefly. His attitudes and antics spoiled that.
He is like many athletes who get to the top of the heap and hang around too long. He could have retired without this ugly stain on his record.

But as you point out, I have done him no favors ever.
 

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Hello; Of course he does not know I exist. Nor should he. I vaguely recall liking him many years ago briefly. His attitudes and antics spoiled that.
He is like many athletes who get to the top of the heap and hang around too long. He could have retired without this ugly stain on his record.

But as you point out, I have done him no favors ever.
Ugly stain? And I’m still not sure about your attitude and antics. He’s a racing driver. Do you expect him to be all sweetness and light when the car is not putting him at the top?

dull race yesterday. Nothing much happened. Lando made a cracking start and gained a few places. A few decant drives further down the field. Alonso did well until his pitstop trashed his hard work. Carlos did well as did Albon. Also Yuki did ok even though there were no points to show for it.
 

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Ugly stain? And I’m still not sure about your attitude and antics. He’s a racing driver. Do you expect him to be all sweetness and light when the car is not putting him at the top?
Hello; You appear to have mixed up my comments in an odd way. The ugly stain is this season with Ferrari. An example is how some top NFL quarterbacks stay around too long winding up being backups.

My expectations for F1 driver behavior on & off track starts out low. Never has been at the level of sweetness much less light, whatever that means. I do not yet rank Hamilton lower than M Schumacher, but he is approaching the level.

But thanks for supporting my long-held contention. That being it is the car most often rather than the drivers. I do have to qualify that some nowadays after seeing Max at work.
 

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What a crappy braking system. How did they get this so wrong. I also am sure they’ll have being saying the same to Lewis and he didn’t manage to do what Charles did.
 

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What a crappy braking system. How did they get this so wrong. I also am sure they’ll have being saying the same to Lewis and he didn’t manage to do what Charles did.
Everything in F1 is run on the edge and sometimes it goes over the edge. If you have too much brake cooling you will have more drag so you need to get it just right.

In the case of Ferrari they have a complex tyre / brake / balance problem that is fundamental in the car. Hamilton's failed because he went onto the softs at the end unlike Leclerc, so was working them much harder at the end.

The car cannot be fixed this year.
 

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Everything in F1 is run on the edge and sometimes it goes over the edge. If you have too much brake cooling you will have more drag so you need to get it just right.
Even in Formula 1 Sim Racing. My son was the 2003 professional world champion. I recall that in Canada, having ducts even the slightest bit larger than needed for front brakes to finish cost 2+ tenths per lap. Won the race with ducts that resulted in brakes failing on even one more lap in testing.
 

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Unbelievable scenes: just six drivers take the start at the US GP
Hello; I watched this F1 race at Indy on TV. Fortunately did not attend in person. The after race added to my dislike of M. Schumacher. Spraying champaign and big grins. There was not a race. the link says the FIA made the decision, but such is not how i recall the story. I

It was back before tire changes were the rule. Also when there was more than one tire supplier. A bad crash during practice was determined to be a problem with the tire brought for several teams. The tire did not suit the track. The tire maker offered to fly in replacement tires better suited. But as i recall Ferrari protested that and the affected teams could only run the risky tire.
So, we got to watch the Ferraris parade around without any real competition.

The way i looked at it was Ferrari's protest swung the deal to an unfair advantage. But such is the nature of many teams & drivers anymore.

F1 has tried out lots of things over the decades. Many do not make sense, nor do they promote good racing. The current tire rules turn a race into a tire/pitstop strategy.
Power units rather than the best ICE engines. What is the point of hybrid systems in a top race category?
Why try to appease some vague principal by limiting the amount of fuel used in a race? How many times has a driver had to power back during a race to avoid using too much fuel?
 

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https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/17/apple-f1-media-deal-streaming.html

Apple TV has won the rights to broadcast F1 races from 2026-2030. All viewers will need an AppleTV subscription ($12.99 per month) to watch.

"Apple TV will provide coverage of all Formula 1events, including practice, qualifying and Sprint sessions, as part of the streamer’s existing $12.99 per month subscription, which comes ad-free. Certain F1 races and all practice sessions will also be available for free in the Apple TV app throughout the season, the companies said in a statement.

F1 TV Premium, the league’s own content offering that’s popular with racing fans, will continue to be available in the U.S. but will now require an Apple TV subscription. Once a customer subscribes to Apple TV, F1 TV Premium will be included in their Apple subscription rather than as a standalone offering."

Spoiler Alert: streaming is turning into what cable TV used to be.
 
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https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/17/apple-f1-media-deal-streaming.html

Apple TV has won the rights to broadcast F1 races from 2026-2030. All viewers will need an AppleTV subscription ($12.99 per month) to watch.

"Apple TV will provide coverage of all Formula 1events, including practice, qualifying and Sprint sessions, as part of the streamer’s existing $12.99 per month subscription, which comes ad-free. Certain F1 races and all practice sessions will also be available for free in the Apple TV app throughout the season, the companies said in a statement.

F1 TV Premium, the league’s own content offering that’s popular with racing fans, will continue to be available in the U.S. but will now require an Apple TV subscription. Once a customer subscribes to Apple TV, F1 TV Premium will be included in their Apple subscription rather than as a standalone offering."

Spoiler Alert: streaming is turning into what cable TV used to be.
Hello; This makes it likely I will not see live F1 races in 2026. Same sort of thing happened to the Tour De France broadcasts the last couple of years. happened to the 24 hours of Lemans race one year.

There was a program series recently which required a subscription to Peacock that i declined to buy. I have a Direct TV package currently on which I get the F1 races. Cost is too much but the DVR & remote are good. I can record races & football to watch when I have time. If Direct TV loses F! then I may drop it.

I got a fiber optic cable to my home about a year ago. I get decent internet & telephone service. I also bought a ROKU box which streams online stuff. I could buy the subscriptions except i do not do credit card transactions online. Too risky.
Already had my personal data lost by an ATT breach over a year ago. Had to freeze my credit and have signed up for monitoring thru Discover Card. I figured since I already pay the discover bill each month it was safer to use their service rather than use a credit card to pay some other service.

This year I can get the F1 races on the ROKU a week later. That may be an option next year if that option continues.
 

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This makes it likely I will not see live F1 races in 2026.
It's one of life's little frustrations.

Before, I was paying X for one service and watched Y amount of content.

Now, I'm paying X for multiple services, watching the same content.

One advantage with streaming: I can turn the subscriptions off any time I want.

One advantage with AppleTV: I'll have access to all the races. With ESPN, there'd often be conflicts between College Football and race weekends. Or ESPN would boot North American content to ABC for that weekend.
 
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https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/17/apple-f1-media-deal-streaming.html

Apple TV has won the rights to broadcast F1 races from 2026-2030. All viewers will need an AppleTV subscription ($12.99 per month) to watch.

"Apple TV will provide coverage of all Formula 1events, including practice, qualifying and Sprint sessions, as part of the streamer’s existing $12.99 per month subscription, which comes ad-free. Certain F1 races and all practice sessions will also be available for free in the Apple TV app throughout the season, the companies said in a statement.

F1 TV Premium, the league’s own content offering that’s popular with racing fans, will continue to be available in the U.S. but will now require an Apple TV subscription. Once a customer subscribes to Apple TV, F1 TV Premium will be included in their Apple subscription rather than as a standalone offering."

Spoiler Alert: streaming is turning into what cable TV used to be.
Just to confirm this is for the US only
 
 








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