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[tittermary]

How can you be sure your tuning software is superior to Cobb's? We all know you've been in the game longer so it could just be your experience that sets you apart right now. But the head start won't last forever. Personally I'm a "show me" kind of guy. What actually is better about your software compared to Cobb? Serious question, if its really better I think we'd all like to know why.

Pretty sure they have shared before they have better access to the Ecu and the oem style logic at least that's my understanding . As far as the show me part just check out the results the lms cars are getting.

 

[dragonacc]

Pretty sure they have shared before they have better access to the Ecu and the oem style logic at least that's my understanding . As far as the show me part just check out the results the lms cars are getting.

Cobb stated originally that they left the OEM logic intact, but they also added advanced tables that can be used if a tuner wants to take advantage of them. Also, I already acknowledged that they have good results, but I wonder if its just experience or if their software is really superior.

Bottom line, just because you say your software is better doesn't make it so.

 

[tittermary]

Cobb stated originally that they left the OEM logic intact, but they also added advanced tables that can be used if a tuner wants to take advantage of them. Also, I already acknowledged that they have good results, but I wonder if its just experience or if their software is really superior.

Bottom line, just because you say your software is better doesn't make it so.

you keep chaulking up the results part as just experience, wouldn't be so quick to write it off like that, they are getting what would appear to be better results AND keep stock boost levels. At end of day it almost doesn't matter software or experience either way something they are doing is working.

Another thing is why so quick to believe this

"Cobb stated originally that they left the OEM logic intact, but they also added advanced tables that can be used if a tuner wants to take advantage of them."

But not lms when they say they believe their software is a better solution ?

Everyone is on the Cobb band wagon because they have logging and a switchable maps and other fluff, that's all well and good if that's what people are into, personally I want et and drivability :-)

Lms has stated how many tables they have access to over 17k, how many did/does Cobb have? This might be an area that could be researched to see which might be better?.

 

[Tamadrummer88]

I'm not sure if this is still true, but Cobb is the only tuner I've seen so far that doesn't have 1/4 mile times to back up their claims yet.


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[dragonacc]

you keep chaulking up the results part as just experience, wouldn't be so quick to write it off like that, they are getting what would appear to be better results AND keep stock boost levels. At end of day it almost doesn't matter software or experience either way something they are doing is working. - It matters to me and Im probably not the only one.

Another thing is why so quick to believe this

"Cobb stated originally that they left the OEM logic intact, but they also added advanced tables that can be used if a tuner wants to take advantage of them."

But not lms when they say they believe their software is a better solution ?

Well they have gone into detail about it, where as LMS just says ours is the best and the others are lacking but dont say what they are lacking

Everyone is on the Cobb band wagon because they have logging and a switchable maps and other fluff, that's all well and good if that's what people are into, personally I want et and drivability :-)Beyond swapable maps and such is the ability to pick a different tuner if you want to. If you want to change to another tuner with LMS you have to buy a new tuning device.

Lms has stated how many tables they have access to over 17k, how many did/does Cobb have? This might be an area that could be researched to see which might be better?.

I'll see if Cobb has an answer to that. But did LMS say they have access to 17k tables? I only saw them say there are 18k in the factory ECU, but I could have missed it.

Edit: As I said, I'm not questioning their results. Just the way they advertise. If their stuff is really the best you'd think they'd be proud to tell you exactly why.

 

[Roidrage]

If you want to know "why" ask them or call them directly through PM etc. It is hard for a tuner to come to a forum and start making blatant claims that they are better than everyone else. It is bad form and very arrogant.

Personally, I would never go with Cobb's canned tunes. After seeing so many Subi issues with their canned tunes, I would never want to use their stuff (please don't ask me to explain). But that's my opinion and I would never shove that down anyone else's throat.

 

[tittermary]

I'll see if Cobb has an answer to that. But did LMS say they have access to 17k tables? I only saw them say there are 18k in the factory ECU, but I could have missed it.

Edit: As I said, I'm not questioning their results. Just the way they advertise. If their stuff is really the best you'd think they'd be proud to tell you exactly why.

And that is the issue imho lol, It certainly rubs some of if not many people wrong when someone or a company says they are the best, to the point that many people will go out of their way or spend lots of money to try and prove them wrong, but when that person or company has the results and in this case consistently and across multiple ecoboost platforms it's hard to argue. Not defended or blowing lms horn just pointing out some facts as I see them, I do use thier tuner because arrogant or not I do believe at this point they are the best.

 

[tittermary]

And just to add that's a valid reason to not use s company the we are the best thing, but if they infact end up being the best........ Just saying

 

[Anthony]

Cobb stated originally that they left the OEM logic intact, but they also added advanced tables that can be used if a tuner wants to take advantage of them. Also, I already acknowledged that they have good results, but I wonder if its just experience or if their software is really superior.

Bottom line, just because you say your software is better doesn't make it so.

So what makes Cobb better?

Times/et? None available

The ability to data log? Not needed when the tune is right to start.

The ability to monitor all the info the car ALREADY displays? Ummm no thanks.

Fan boys from the focus world.

Cobb has a lot of followers and clearly the ability to tune. Let's see the 11 sec slips from tune n tire Cobb cars.

I'll wait. How long will it take to "catch up" to the "head start" Livernois has?

I'm a pretty busy guy.

 

[tittermary]

I'll see if Cobb has an answer to that. But did LMS say they have access to 17k tables? I only saw them say there are 18k in the factory ECU, but I could have missed it.

Edit: As I said, I'm not questioning their results. Just the way they advertise. If their stuff is really the best you'd think they'd be proud to tell you exactly why.

And again they have, look at the results they have gotten , and again I get you not arguing with you I get that the way they come across bothers you

 

[tittermary]

So what makes Cobb better?

Times/et? None available

The ability to data log? Not needed when the tune is right to start.

The ability to monitor all the info the car ALREADY displays? Ummm no thanks.

Fan boys from the focus world.

Cobb has a lot of followers and clearly the ability to tune. Let's see the 11 sec slips from tune n tire Cobb cars.

I'll wait. How long will it take to "catch up" to the "head start" Livernois has?

I'm a pretty busy guy.

And then this dude , lol. It must be a Michigan thing.

 

[Anthony]

I'll see if Cobb has an answer to that. But did LMS say they have access to 17k tables? I only saw them say there are 18k in the factory ECU, but I could have missed it.

Edit: As I said, I'm not questioning their results. Just the way they advertise. If their stuff is really the best you'd think they'd be proud to tell you exactly why.

Livernois has stated the access they have.

An unreal amount of tables.

Has Cobb stated what they have access too?

Pile on Livernois for stating what they see and tune? But don't pile in Cobb for not stating anything...... Not even time slips.

What a awesome world some live in

 

[tittermary]

Livernois has stated the access they have.

An unreal amount of tables.

Has Cobb stated what they have access too?

Pile on Livernois for stating what they see and tune? But don't pile in Cobb for not stating anything...... Not even time slips.

What a awesome world some live in

It's early time slips will come, let's please try to have s decent discussion about the merits without getting to heavy into idol worship

 

[Tamadrummer88]

It's early time slips will come, let's please try to have s decent discussion about the merits with getting to heavy into idol worship

Don't mind him, he feels the need to berate anyone that gives false information or talks bad about livernois.

Dude knows a lot, he just needs to stop being an ass about it.


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