Ford Racing

[Livernois Motorsports]

Sweet baby Jesus, we struck gold!!

Outside of the performance aspect, could you please touch upon the reliability aspect to your tuning suit? This is my primary concern when tuning. I could careless about 5-10 WHP when reliability is a potential concern (bumping boost from 20 to 23/25).

Thanks for all the info! Much appreciated.

We do not care about 5-10 WHP if it means that you are not going to have a 110% safe and reliable product. Because of our R&D work, engineering dept and engine build dept we are able to create situations where we test the outer limits of each platform that we offer solutions for. We find the point of no return, find the low end of what the engineers think is the sweet spot and then test relentlessly until we can dial our tuning in to a position where we are 1,000% happy and comfortable with what we are able to churn out of the platform in question.

Take the 2.3L S550 for example, our race tune is the outer limit. Our 12.6 tune is what the "megaminds" said was one the spot.

Awesome question!

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[Livernois Motorsports]

This! I don't race and I'm not concerned with getting THE most power from a tune. I'd be looking for a safe, reliable bump in performance. I will likely keep this car for 10+ years.

You are our "white rabbit"! We chase the client that is going to take their car love it, drive it and keep it.

 

[Livernois Motorsports]

I appreciate the answer LMS.

We appreciate the conversation! Like I said several times, we are here to help EVERYONE. It doesn't matter if you are a past, present, future client of ours or not a client of ours at all! We are here to help regardless. :cheers:

 

[Livernois Motorsports]

I'm pretty sure that they said in another post that they keep boost levels at stock or within 2 psi above. In the post, they actually said >2 psi of stock boost levels, but I'm pretty sure they meant within 2 psi of stock levels.

We keep most boost levels within about 2% of stock.

 

[Livernois Motorsports]

Thanks for the detailed explanation LMS. One specific remark I want to make is related to the tuner hardware.

While I understand your stance, I would like to have access to some of the additional gauges provided with the other vendors. The idea that I can't "see" what my bolt-ons or tune are doing is disappointing. I'm by no means an advanced user. Yes, this is my first turbo car, the first time I do bolt-ons, the first time I actually install said bold-ons. And, I'm having a blast. I also bake my custom android roms, and flash the hell outta my phone, so I have some idea of what a tune entails.

I am an analytical guy (Work in the IT field) and like to see metrics to define performance. How do I know what my upgrades are doing anything besides SOTP feel? I would like to know what my IAT2 is (Charge temp or CATs) as this seems to be one of the biggest issues with the platform. Unfortunately, this is not provided by Ford... So, I have no idea how my after market IC is performing for example.

While I agree that bad information is not the best (PIDS and sample rates you mentioned) I would at least like to have a metric to go on for comparison purposes.

I give you props for being so forthcoming on the advantages of your tune. I really just want to have a cake, and eat it. Otherwise, I'm left with choosing better ECU access (secret sauce) or gauges to help me understand my vehicle, as I can't have both.

I can respect your desire, 100%. And we will break down with you over the phone (with-in reason) what modifications are made to accommodate your modifications. Your car does accurately monitor IAT's. Honestly, your companion modification to that FMIC (I assume) is our EvenFlo 160° thermostat. The stock unit is ~178° and will travel routinely to the mid 200's...BAD NEWS BEARS! Ford does their power testing @ ~140°, so we are trying to get you as close to that number as possible without you losing the perks of a modern car. Unfortunately, even with gauges (which are available) they will be inaccurate. If having the gauges makes you feel more at ease, by all means. Just know that it is not by any means "scientifically accurate".

 

[Livernois Motorsports]

I just want to thank all you guys for your questions. But most of all your level of understanding with what I can and cannot divulge. Please if you guys need anything let us know. You can PM me here, email us generically at info@livernoismotorsports OR email me (Jaimie) directly at ​[email protected]

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